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Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by Nullabillity »

Spivak wrote: post #50
vetinari wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is more nuanced like that. If you do not have any other value proposition for paid tiers, you might keep telling yourself that, it is your sales model after all.

sl;kfjasdf;lkasjdefk Okay, look. There's two universes here. Universe A is where split up the features of our product into tiers based on "value" -- some arbitrary groups based on how useful we think each feature is, how expensive they are, how long they took to develop, estimated person-hours saved, whatever. Sweet, it feels right. Now the free/low cost tiers are genuinely less useful than the higher tiers. Pay more…

Imagine you go to a supermarket and see the same brand carry two tiers of eggs: "Eggs" and "Salmonella-free Eggs".

Even if you could easily afford the salmonella-free eggs, the mere fact that they are willing to sell salmonella eggs at all says a lot about how many shits they give about food safety.

SSO isn't a premium or differentiator feature, it's table stakes.

Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by derkoe »

JOnAgain wrote: post #29

Teams with over 100 users are going from $7 to $24? 150 users * 12 months * $7/month = $12,600 150 users * 12 months * $24/month = $43,000 Is that right? There are customers who will see their bills more than 3x?

Yes this is happening and In think this was intentional.

I think this will just lead to more companies switching to alternatives like Podman Desktop or Rancher Desktop.

Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by dserodio »

JOnAgain wrote: post #29

Teams with over 100 users are going from $7 to $24? 150 users * 12 months * $7/month = $12,600 150 users * 12 months * $24/month = $43,000 Is that right? There are customers who will see their bills more than 3x?

Yes, it's happening to us. And on top of that, since Business is only offered via yearly invoice, we'll also have to pay 1 year upfront instead of monthly via credit card as we've been doing.

But to make us feel better, they're offering a 30% discount (for this initial year) to the affected companies.

This is insane, I don't expect we'll renew out subscription next year. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...

Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by paulryanrogers »

Nullabillity wrote: post #51
Spivak wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sl;kfjasdf;lkasjdefk Okay, look. There's two universes here. Universe A is where split up the features of our product into tiers based on "value" -- some arbitrary groups based on how useful we think each feature is, how expensive they are, how long they took to develop, estimated person-hours saved, whatever. Sweet, it feels right. Now the free/low cost tiers are genuinely less useful than the higher tiers. Pay more…

Imagine you go to a supermarket and see the same brand carry two tiers of eggs: "Eggs" and "Salmonella-free Eggs". Even if you could easily afford the salmonella-free eggs, the mere fact that they are willing to sell salmonella eggs at all says a lot about how many shits they give about food safety. SSO isn't a premium or differentiator feature, it's table stakes.

> SSO isn't a premium or differentiator feature, it's table stakes.

Not for B2C, hobby projects, very small businesses. That's why it's great as a differentiator: because it separates the wheat from the chaff. And is often non-trivial as the number of integrations grows. Hence the SSO middleware market.

Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

mrud wrote: post #13
lma21 wrote: post #8

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If i may ask, why do you keep using Docker for Teams/Business? what stopped you from moving to any of the alternatives?

For us it is docker desktop. Developers use mostly Mac and getting everyone to switch to something else takes time for testing, documentation, roll out etc.

Pretty much this - my company doesn't have Linux SOEs so Docker on a Mac means Docker Desktop.

Re: Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

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Post by ancieque »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #43
skywhopper wrote: post #5

This is a ~15-30% increase. Truly wild. Meanwhile I can’t remember the last time one of the new features made my life easier.

Heck I only remember Docker _losing_ features over time. Docker machine, docker swarm, etc. all relegated to the dust bin despite filling useful roles.

Swarm never actually went away though.

The dust is settling and people are starting to realize that Kubernetes is too complex for a lot of cases. This is where things like acorn.io try to live, but this all feels like trying to get back to the same experience Swarm had.

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