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Re: Is Truss Still PM?

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Holy shit I hadn't checked in a few weeks, but yeah if an election was held tomorrow they could potentially finish third: https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

There's a map here that graphically shows just what a wipeout it would be: https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/158203973484657459...

Not a speck of blue north of the border and that worm Douglas Ross out of a job. Glorious. Wonder if anything will change in the next 2 years ...

Re: Is Truss Still PM?

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Without an election Labour dont have enough seats to be an effective minority government. They would need either lots of support from other parties. Best option right now is an election, its really our only path to stability. But the Tories will hang on for as long as they can as they are expecting to be wiped out if they held an election right now.

It would be nice if there was a way for the people to request an election anytime. For example... Anyone can gather 100 signatures asking for an election. Then the electoral commission will select 1000 people at random from the electoral register and ask them "Should the UK hold an immediate election?". And then if the majority of those responding say yes, then an election happens.

I am sure such system would never be abused or tempered with even.

Queue in gerrymandering.

Re: Is Truss Still PM?

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It would be nice if there was a way for the people to request an election anytime. For example... Anyone can gather 100 signatures asking for an election. Then the electoral commission will select 1000 people at random from the electoral register and ask them "Should the UK hold an immediate election?". And then if the majority of those responding say yes, then an election happens.

I am sure such system would never be abused or tempered with even. Queue in gerrymandering.

I don't really see how it can be gamed...

The worst that can happen is nuisance elections.

Re: Is Truss Still PM?

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It's not dangerous. Other countries have managed with their parliamentary system out of action for extended amounts of time. That's the point of having strong institutions and a civil service. The Tories haven't totally destroyed that yet, despite their efforts.

But it's not just the parliamentary system that's out of action; it's the government. The nominal head of the government is obviously a dead duck. The tune the chancellor is playing is being called by the Bank of England (and others unnamed), none of whom was elected, and none of whose policy preferences have been presented to the public, let alone approved. This would be a fantastic moment to stage a coup. And there…

I still don't understand why you think it's dangerous. Government sets policy. Even when they make changes it takes time for policy decisions to actually take effect. The civil service and bureaucracy will continue with the previous policies until the government gets its act together. There's no problem until budget time. Quite frankly it's probably less dangerous if the Tories stop doing any governing for a little while.

> The tune the chancellor is playing is being called by the Bank of England (and others unnamed), none of whom was elected, and none of whose policy preferences have been presented to the public, let alone approved.

As is always the case. That's a deeper issue and not anything to do with the current crisis, you've just seen the covers pulled back for 5 minutes.

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