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Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by macrolime »

I've been playing with something similar and it's pretty fun.

Take a picture of a room then use img2img in stable diffusion automatic1111.

Set denoising strength to a value between 0.3 and 0.6. Lower than 0.3 and not much will change, higher than 0.6 it tends to start changing the whole room.

It can be used without a prompt or use a prompt to attempt to describe the room, like a "a living room with a grey couch a white table walls with wallpaper" then change parts of the prompt to morph it in desired direction, like add a chair something or add the name of art styles or "by someartistname". Just having a prompt that somewhat describes the room and pressing generate many times will also just create a lot of random alternative interiors, like in the video. If you want to create a video I guess you'd use deforum, but I haven't really tried that.

The stuff documented under img2img alternative test here can also be useful if you manage to dial it in properly. This is for keeping the image more stable and getting more control of what you change. https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by azinman2 »

snek_case wrote: post #44
naet wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't meant to be a literal blueprint maker- it's an idea machine. The advantage of Stable Diffusion is that you can put an actual photo of your real life kitchen in as a seed, and see the ideas applied to your space. It's not the same as browsing through pictures of kitchens on pintrest or houzz, which show entirely different locations of different sizes, different lighting conditions, or different dimensions;…

The images definitely look good enough to serve as ideas/inspiration IMO. A sketch doesn't need to look photorealistic to inspire you.

But at that point does it need to be your room even? If the results aren’t actionable because of constraints, why not just flip through images of existing real world kitchens?

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by aaroninsf »

totalview wrote: post #25

I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

I will suggest that in a critical way, none of us, you included, "know" that this is a starting point.

So much of the reaction and subsequent reasoning about such tools is bounded (predictably, inevitably, naturally) by human cognitive error—in particular, our total collective inability to reason with non-linear extrapolations.

We "know" this is a starting point, but even the linear line from "nothing like this existed at the start of 2022" to now, projects into a "what exists in 18 months" which is itself an effectively instant timescale (residential A&D projects here in SF are often 3-year endeavors...)...

...what this looks like for a loose interpretation of "this," is literally unimaginable to us.

One technical thing: I was just telling someone 30 minutes ago, in the lats week, my #aiart timeline and feed on Twitter started saturating this week with extrapolations into AR/VR applications.

The toolchains which will exists in this domain prior even to the launch of Apple's long rumored AR goggles are already eyebrow-raising. Assuming there is a path to deploy experiences onto Apple glass, there's going to yet another infusion of energy (cough money) into the precambrian explosion going on around ML/imagegen etc.

Don't make the mistake of thinking flaws in proof-of-concept first-passes like this (which is already IMO quite compelling for ideation), are going to be a permanent fixture or blocker.

If you review the evolution of imagegen over the last two years, you can get a taste of how ephemeral most such limitations are...

...and the egregious ones tend to attract a frenzy of work.

To put a point on it, I think you're OK saying "near" term, but "mid"... absolutely not. This is just one more place where disruption is clearly visible on the horizon.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by avereveard »

azinman2 wrote: post #53
snek_case wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The images definitely look good enough to serve as ideas/inspiration IMO. A sketch doesn't need to look photorealistic to inspire you.

But at that point does it need to be your room even? If the results aren’t actionable because of constraints, why not just flip through images of existing real world kitchens?

Well yes a double sink and a six top cooking space look great on brochures but it's only when you try to fit the fridge, the window and that awkward door that you realize you'd end up with a single 60cm working space or the corner element won't open or the dish washer door interferes with the fridge door or walkable space or you can only open drawers standing on their side

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by naillo »

ToJans wrote: post #48

I like this idea but I would suggest that you invest some time in some UX validation if you want to maximize the potential usage. I own a SaaS that offers online 3D configurators for outdoor structures [1] since 2014, and tried something similar as a UX experiment a couple of years back; here is the gist of it: We offered 20 different variations on the screen at the same time, and people had to gradually fine-tune th…

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Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by azinman2 »

avereveard wrote: post #57
azinman2 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But at that point does it need to be your room even? If the results aren’t actionable because of constraints, why not just flip through images of existing real world kitchens?

Well yes a double sink and a six top cooking space look great on brochures but it's only when you try to fit the fridge, the window and that awkward door that you realize you'd end up with a single 60cm working space or the corner element won't open or the dish washer door interferes with the fridge door or walkable space or you can only open drawers standing on their side

GP was talking about inspiration. That doesn’t mean you get to carbon copy anything.

When the AI blows away support walls and rearranges things that can’t structurally work, its utility is limited too. It can also dream up sinks/fridges/ranges that don’t exist with sizes that aren’t realistic either.

I’m supportive of the general direction but in a model that’s built for it where all the real constraints can actually be accounted for reliably. That would allow you to go beyond looking at pics for inspiration into renderings you can flip through easily. Bonus points if it can approximate cost, including plumbing and electrical in rearranging things for where plumbing and electrical already are.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Post by peteradio »

avereveard wrote: post #57
azinman2 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But at that point does it need to be your room even? If the results aren’t actionable because of constraints, why not just flip through images of existing real world kitchens?

Well yes a double sink and a six top cooking space look great on brochures but it's only when you try to fit the fridge, the window and that awkward door that you realize you'd end up with a single 60cm working space or the corner element won't open or the dish washer door interferes with the fridge door or walkable space or you can only open drawers standing on their side

It doesn't look like this stable diffusion would be able to tell you that either. You can see it changing the shape (angles) of the room in real time. It does not show cabinets at real depth etc.
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