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Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Apart from the usual "this is something important that is happening" (which is not quite HN "intellectual curiosity" territory, what is striking is the use of what I assume is a V for Vendetta mask - with Red and Green daubing. How culture spreads is ... fascinating.

The genesis may have been “V for Vendetta” but I believe Anonymous used a similar mask and it’s possible the hacker/s are aware of that.

Anonymous, and many other unrelated protesters, used the V for Vendetta mask when protesting against Scientology not just as a symbol but rather because of the cult..er church well known tactics of harassing anyone who opposes them. They usually followed protesters until they put the mask off so they or their car license plate could be photographed easing the identification.

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> These images are all fake, and obviously so. As a photographer, what about these images is obviously fake? > All the eyes are at an identical pitch Which is evidence of what? Generally, when booking photos are taken, the subject is asked to look at a single spot to preserve consistency and identifiability. > when you go to the source you'll find many of them wearing exactly the same clothes, with exactly the same c…

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Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Apart from the usual "this is something important that is happening" (which is not quite HN "intellectual curiosity" territory, what is striking is the use of what I assume is a V for Vendetta mask - with Red and Green daubing. How culture spreads is ... fascinating.

Maybe that was the intention but it doesn't really look like a Guy Fawkes mask at all though, other than being a white face mask. Eyebrows and eye cut-outs are different, it has a full beard, it's not a v-shaped face, etc.

Re: Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters

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Apart from the usual "this is something important that is happening" (which is not quite HN "intellectual curiosity" territory, what is striking is the use of what I assume is a V for Vendetta mask - with Red and Green daubing. How culture spreads is ... fascinating.

The red and green is just the Iranian flag though. What culture were you thinking of? Suiseiseki?

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Given the recent split between the USA and Saudi Arabia over crude oil production targets, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar hacking of Saudi news feeds by 'domestic protestors' and a new US State Department focus on 'human rights and democratic reforms in the repressive Saudi dictatorship' coming up pretty quickly. This would be a radical shift from US behavior during the Arab Spring, when the USA gave a wink a…

This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…

You're absolutely right it's been going on for decades, but I think looking into that history is also telling. In 1953 Iran was a relatively secular and democratic nation that had generally positive, though flagging, relations with the West. Then their leader decided to reduce US/UK control over his country's oil assets. So of course we had to bring democracy to them. But since they already had a democracy, autocracy would have to do instead. [1]

We staged a coup, overthrew their democracy, and installed an extremely unpopular puppet dictator and monarch. 26 years later in 1979 there was another revolution, except this one was carried out by the people of Iran, and not the CIA. The puppet (still ruling from 1953 interestingly) was overthrown, and in his place an Islamic theocracy was created. And since then it's invariably been headed by leaders that, for some reason, haven't been especially fond of the West - and frequently imply we're up to shenanigans. That scenario continues to this day.

Ultimately I no longer really believe that we deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to black ops types scenarios. We've turned what should be a sort of last resort act of subterfuge into what increasingly seems to be a front-line approach to international relations. The most bizarre part is that these shenanigans never even really seem to achieve anything. Iran just being one example of going black ops to undermine one enemy, only to create one 10x more deadly, dangerous, and hostile than the former.

All we really seem to be achieving is the fast-tracking of WW3.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

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This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…

You're absolutely right it's been going on for decades, but I think looking into that history is also telling. In 1953 Iran was a relatively secular and democratic nation that had generally positive, though flagging, relations with the West. Then their leader decided to reduce US/UK control over his country's oil assets. So of course we had to bring democracy to them. But since they already had a democracy, autocracy…

The fact that the US orchestrated a coup in 1953 proves that the US is also orchestrating this coup today? That's the argument?

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Source? Actually, low effort agit prop that could actually be done by NGOs. Moral grand standing by US is so tiresome… it’s an Psyop color revolution otherwise we’d see Saudi protests etc.

China has openly acknowledged these camps, going so far has to request the UN acknowledge their sovereignty: “The Chinese government officially legalized re-education camps in Xinjiang in October 2018.[422] Prior to that, when international media had asked about the re-education camps, China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that they have not heard of this situation.[423] On 12 August 2018, a Chinese state-run tabl…

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Coverage of the abuses in these prisons is not limited to a single country or region of the world. And which is “my own” country’s media? It is not intellectual laziness to observe that an account primarily parrots the propaganda of certain repressive governments. Your own account is rather interesting in that regard.

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