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Splunk IP suit against Cribl

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Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#52

Splunk is a great tool but expensive. I like splunk's aggregation feature very much. If it is server logs, it can aggregate and tell me how many http 500 errors I have, how many requests resulted in 404 etc. It can tell me top IP addresses where I am getting requests from, etc. I want to take a CSV file and provide same functionality. Eg. Give user information on how many times each field occurs. For example, if it i…

What you're describing sounds like Loki (Grafana's Prometheus inspired logging tool, which is super fast and cheap/easy, even though it sacrifices some flexibility to get there) Metric Queries: https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/logql/metric_queries/

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, this is exactly what I was referring to! We were negotiating a massive renewal (50x budget IN EARNEST!) and out of nowhere they threatened to cut us off with less than 24 hours notice because we were a week behind their schedule, despite signed agreements. Thankfully our VAR (a longtime partner) jumped in and cut a PO to vouch for us and our word. NONE of our other vendors have EVER done that shit in my entire c…

Lol, I could have written exactly the same comments you did about Splunk. I'm the one who decided to start using splunk for our company 8 years ago, we're working on migrating away and I will never under any circumstances consider recommending splunk for any future companies I work for.

I can truly empathize. I’ve never wasted so much of my time on a vendor. It’s infuriating and certainly not worth the personal stress and agony. It shouldn’t be this hard!

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#54

Splunk is a great tool but expensive. I like splunk's aggregation feature very much. If it is server logs, it can aggregate and tell me how many http 500 errors I have, how many requests resulted in 404 etc. It can tell me top IP addresses where I am getting requests from, etc. I want to take a CSV file and provide same functionality. Eg. Give user information on how many times each field occurs. For example, if it i…

We're building Matano (https://github.com/matanolabs/matano), an open source security lake platform. It's a different approach since we normalize logs from JSON, csv, etc, and ingest them into Apache Iceberg tables, but it allows for massive scale and joins, aggregations, etc using SQL.

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#55

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What are you planning to move to?

Exactly. This is the question. If you’re looking for APM well you’ve got great options but for those using Splunk in the security space (SIEM & SOAR) you’re screwed. There’s no better SIEM alternative that deals with logs at scale. Splunk recently screwed a friends Fortune 50 company. They didn't pay a bill on time (renewal negotiations) and Splunk without even contacting them just left all the logs from one of their…

It's pretty ridiculous this can happen. With building Matano (https://github.com/matanolabs/matano), an open source security lake, one of our core decisions was to store all data in S3 in Apache Iceberg tables (an open table format that lets you query data from any supporting tool i.e Spark, Presto, Athena, Snowflake, more). This let's you own your data without it being held hostage on some vendors instances in a proprietary format.

-https://github.com/matanolabs/matano

- https://iceberg.apache.org

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#57
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Splunk is the best at what it does with no close competition. I've been looking into Cribl and it seems their product has surpassed their competition as well but not in search, more in data summarization and log reduction, possibly before you ship it off to a more proper place like Splunk. Splunk's cost makes it inaccessible to most people or companies. I mean, I work in infosec and I highly caution against Splunk be…

Humio is faster and cheaper than Splunk and while I haven't compared the two products feature by feature, does pretty much the same.

As an end user having used both to manage logs on a few dozen distributed applications I would never choose Splunk over Humio.

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#58

can anyone explain to a developer what splunk does?

Conveniently (and expensively) provide a destination for log data streams and enable realtime ad-hoc querying against that data at scale, with time series features and a Unix shell pipeline-like query syntax. As the comments tell, though, you must tweak it to actually see performance. And, having seen its use in ecommerce with eg logged transaction details such as credit card numbers and other PII, the prospect of easily and loosely logging all the things is limited by data security and privacy concerns, with some practices a recipe for big-time breaches and lawsuits. Aand, per seat licensing is expensive, such that more often than not IME you have a Splunk guy/gal to whom you must address your data reporting needs, questioning any benefits that ad-hoc querying your logs may have.

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#59
Pretty happy with opentelemetry collector that allows to receive traces/metrics/logs etc in different formats and then cleanup the data and push it to aggregators like Splunk or Datadog. Makes it easy to switch when the tool I am using now gets a bit expensive for tracing

Re: Splunk IP suit against Cribl

#60
I’m currently working with a company in this space (axiom.co) and this shit scares me because it’s splunk scared. Maybe cribl did this? But the press release reads like a self-Pat on the back.
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