gladio never stopped, it just came home
you say lone wolf mass shooter, i say domestic gladio.
I say reverberations of the Iraq War
Operation Gladio
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Re: Operation Gladio
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's nothing, wait until you find out that the Japanese LDP was founded by class A nazi war criminals that the US released from prison :) If you think it's shocking that the US works with fascists, it can only because you know nothing at all about US foreign policy and how it works. The idea that it's "off the rails" rather than something that repeats so ofte it's not even interesting is _buck wild_ :)
I try to look towards the better angels of everyone’s nature. Being jaded and cynical rarely solves problems.
Optimism of spirit, pessimism of the intellect.
Living in a dream world not only fails to solve problems, but I have noticed, tends to perpetuate them.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Preserving Soviet Union was unfortunate, but leaving the whole of Europe and most of Asia to Hitler was even worse. That would put the US homeland in direct danger of a major war. Policies of Deng Xiaoping in 1980s and 1990s looked much softer and promising than the current regime under Xi Jinping. The Tiananmen Square massacre should have been a warning, though. The Chinese played their growing economy card expertly…
It has never made sense to me why Anglos allied with the Communists. It seems to me the Communists wanted Global Communism, while Hitler wanted a larger Germany. America shouldn’t have allied with either of them. We are complicit to Soviet crimes as a nation.
A bigger Germany over something like 50 million dead Slavs, Jews and Gypsies - and this is even if they won?
Wtf
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
When official history is written by the victors, all other histories become “interesting”.
I see! So the Soviets were actually the good guys? Or at least well-intentioned... I assume the same logic could be applied to the history of the Third Reich too, right?
Thanks for illustrating my point by assuming that there must necessarily be a Good Guy (who is of course the victor).
And for that matter yes: The Soviets were just as much of a Good Guy as the other Allies. As for the Cold War? They were the lesser evil of the two super powers. But not a Good Guy.
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#55Ah yes. Bringing democracy democracy, but also arming terrorists just in case people vote incorrectly. How not to be grateful for this?
Better dead than red.
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#57It's easy to kick up at the US and its spectacularly disreputable IC, but it's worth recognizing that totalitarianism is a virus that preys on the morally weak and subordinates them to dissolving their own socities and cultures. These movements operate as trivial pyramid schemes of betrayal and suffering, and that's what makes them stupid enough to scale. The communist flavour of these movements is by every measure a…
Thank you for this. Damn right.
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#58I'm vehemently against these "stay behind" sabotage troops. When you look at how they fared in WWII you'll notice they didn't make a difference militarily, but did lead to enormous casualties amongst the civilian population, mostly from reprisals.
I believe we should fight to win or lose and give up. Fighting a guerilla war when you country's occupied will not make any difference in the end.
Worse still, these so-called paramilitaries often branched out into crime and human rights abuses. They might even turn against the government that created them.