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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by secondcoming »

bamboozled wrote: post #16
perihelions wrote: post #4

-- Screenshot 1: [Jack Dorsey] "Yes, a new platform is needed. It can't be a company. This is why I left." [Jack Dorsey] " https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507777913042571267?s=20... " [Elon Musk] "Ok" [Elon Musk] "What should it look like?" [Jack Dorsey] "I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn't own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done.…

Does anyone else find this conversation awkward / cringe worthy? "Hey genius billionaire, what's up?" "Oh hey other genius billionaire..." "Let's do some shit because you know, the morons on the board didn't get it, I just didn't get my way so I left to do bitcoinz", "Off to dinner, later bro, let's solve all the problems tomorrow"... "Cool bro, I'll try buy the company and forfeit at the last minute when I realize I…

Not me

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by therouwboat »

irusensei wrote: post #27
cassianoleal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, they want to create Mastodon?

Mastodon is worse than twitter. You need to either maintain or join a server that is often managed by tyrannical admins that are even more trigger happy on silencing individuals and even other servers. You, your post history and account identity are at the mercy of those server administrators who can basically lock you out. IMO credentials and identity management must be self hosted mobile and preferably not dependen…

I dont use mastodon, I use forums, but you just have to look until you find a good place and dont think you own your "avatar" or posts or anything. I have left few forums when they started to feel wrong and I have no problem with that.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by mavhc »

Huh1337 wrote: post #49
feet wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hilarious, because for someone with a literal degree in physics he doesn't seem to understand the physics at all

Can you provide some examples?

He thought you could return a rocket from space and have it land vertically

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by CPLX »

robertwt7 wrote: post #11

This is quite interesting to see because Jack has plenty of stock in twitter obviously? So it kind of shows that he doesn’t really care about profits, instead he wants to do more interesting thing, what a geek, just like all of us lol. Or the other way to see it is that he felt that twitter can’t be saved and he wants to create a new profitable thing.. who knows about how billionaires think

Billionaires care deeply about money. For the most part it’s accurate to say it’s the only thing they care about, but it’s certainly the thing they care about most.

If you care more about anything more than money you have so many opportunities to express that preference long before you get to a billion dollars that the existence of the billion dollars pretty much proves that there’s nothing above money on the list.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by mavhc »

irusensei wrote: post #27
cassianoleal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, they want to create Mastodon?

Mastodon is worse than twitter. You need to either maintain or join a server that is often managed by tyrannical admins that are even more trigger happy on silencing individuals and even other servers. You, your post history and account identity are at the mercy of those server administrators who can basically lock you out. IMO credentials and identity management must be self hosted mobile and preferably not dependen…

Turns out twitter's not so bad at managing a few million users after all

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by ekianjo »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #25

Shame he couldn't do anything about that when he was either CEO, chairman or on the board of Twitter (for most of its existence). As Bloomberg said yesterday: "Twitter Is in This Mess Because Jack Dorsey Was Too Busy Being a Bitcoin Influencer" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-29/twitter-t... https://archive.ph/7ugqn

Bloomberg are idiots talking out of their asses. They have never worked in tech companies

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by brethil »

Is he talking about ActivityPub[1, 2] and the Fediverse[3]?

Just look at Mastodon[4, 5] if you're looking for something like twitter without the centralization and the corporate greed.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub [2] https://activitypub.rocks [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) [5] https://joinmastodon.org/servers

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Post by stefs »

vernon99 wrote: post #38
andrewflnr wrote: post #18

I have to admit this is a bit surprising from Musk. I was pretty firmly of the theory that his real motive re Twitter was basically narcissism, and I'm still not sure that's wrong. I note he's not agreeing strongly with Dorsey, with the strongest phrase being "I'd like to help if I can". And I still think he would be better off using any money he might have spent buying Twitter on funding a handful of open source com…

Why would this transition ever happen? Network effect is too strong. How open-sourcedness of an alternative would help with this fact?

network effects are overcome all the time. all the social networks are dying sooner or later. even facebook is panicking because they're losing the next generation and instagram is panically trying to emulate tiktok or whatever because they have _something_.
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