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Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

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Post by sirclueless » Wed, Nov 30, 2011, 11:53 PM UTC

thezoid wrote: post #16

sunchild wrote: post #12

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Under GPL3, if you make KendoUI components available via hosted solution, I think you'd have to release your app's entire source. I think GPL3/commercial dual licensing is a very unattractive licensing approach, but that's just my view. CORRECTION: My comment is only true under the Affero GPL.

I think that since the only code that is directly linking to the library is your JS, that needs to be released according to the GPL. So if you don't minify everything, you are probably complying already. Otherwise you'd have to provide access to your unminified JS source.

Providing access to your unminified JS is not the same as releasing your JS under the GPL. The GPL explicitly allows anyone to modify and redistribute the software, which is not necessarily a privilege you would otherwise grant when you give someone JS to execute.

I'm not certain whether including a GPL library with your JS code requires you to license your JS as well under the GPL, but if it does then simply choosing not to minify won't be enough protection.

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

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Post by marquis » Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 12:34 AM UTC

froggy wrote: post #25

VonLipwig wrote: post #3

Just wondering why you would pick this over say jquery-ui or a combination of free and open source solutions?

This is way slicker than what you could build using jquery-ui and available plugins unless you are rockstar with the js and have an excellent design person. For instance, the best time-picker plugin I've been able to find for jquery-ui is nice but isn't perfectly cross-browser and not as pretty: http://labs.perifer.se/timedatepicker/ Now look at the Kendo time picker. Design and usability are crucial to a successful…

Michael Vanderheeren's Absolution UI is pretty gorgeous. http://www.michaelvanderheeren.be/archives/382

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

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Post by bundyo » Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 4:37 AM UTC

moconnor wrote: post #47

endersshadow wrote: post #36

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Honestly, I wouldn't hold your breath. You're probably so far on the fringe that it's not worth their time to fix it for you. They're demo works fine on my phone (Opera Mobile browser), the only mouseless interface I use. I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.

Combo boxes don't work at all on the iPad (or, presumably, iPhone). Long ones such as in the welcome demo page select items instead of scrolling on drag. Short ones on the combo box page close as soon as they open. The landing page made a big deal out of supporting touch devices and being a HTML5 app framework; I wouldn't build anything on a framework whose own demos don't work on the most popular touch devices in th…

Touch scrolling is not enabled for mobile devices since there is native scrolling already (with two fingers in iOS below 5 and with one in iOS5). Custom scrolling can be additionally enabled.

Re: Kendo UI is out of beta

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Post by spanktheuser » Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 8:58 PM UTC

teyc wrote: post #50

spanktheuser wrote: post #32

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Fortune 500 and mid-market companies are the target market. I've consulted at several in the Chicago area that strongly prefer to work with a vendor who can provide long-term support and training. No MVPs to offer, but Sencha and Highcharts are making a living licensing their Javascript libraries. If you're interested in this market, I'd recommend libraries for building complex infographics. Something beyond the stan…

Any examples? Doesn't have to be HTML.

Probably missed the chance to get you useful information. But I've worked for a few companies looking to create dynamic versions of the typical "tower of infographic" visualizations. If you notice this and need some examples / general requirements to get you going, my e-mail address is on my profile.