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Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by ElCheapo »

josefx wrote: post #48
moffkalast wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more interested why it isn't possible to just fork the thing and maintain a version that's plugin enabled. Isn't Chromium completely open source? Especially for Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, etc.

>Isn't Chromium completely open source? No, especially not if you want to watch videos, the DRM plugin is a binary blob that only Google approved browsers get to run. Then there are all the Google services that will break in unexpected ways in your browser, sometimes just because your user agent isn't identical to Chromes if past reports from Firefox users are any indication. Basically expect to be shit on by the big…

I mean, if the DRM wasn't a blob it would be open source. Andnif it were open source it wouldn't be DRM...

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

staticassertion wrote: post #19
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A proxy extension requires rewriting arbitrary requests on the fly That is completely incorrect. A proxy extension routes requests through a proxy server. It does not rewrite anything.

OK and presumably it does that by taking a request for an address A and rewriting part of it so that it actually goes to B with some additional headers to indicate how to forward it. edit: Apparently I've hit my HN rate limit so I can't reply! Thanks Dang. As for the proxying, obviously something has to rewrite the address that the request is going to. Depending on the type of proxy (ex: HTTP CONNECT) you may also ha…

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Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by croes »

vlunkr wrote: post #28
superkuh wrote: post #7

I don't want to pile on here but everyone who used Chromium while pretending they weren't supporting google's Chrome monopoly, pretending Chromium was something else, are getting the only outcome that was possible. It was entirely predictable from the start and if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

And the stupid prize is what? You might have to use a different browser? Doesn't seem that serious to me.

And then you realize all the web sites are optimized for chrome and you have problems using other browsers

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

_aizw wrote: post #43
altdataseller wrote: post #40

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Why will auth-less open proxies be bad?

VPN providers won't be able to verify if a user paid for the service.

Not just VPN providers or other paid services. Open proxies on the internet are bad for everyone.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by heavyset_go »

ElCheapo wrote: post #51
josefx wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Isn't Chromium completely open source? No, especially not if you want to watch videos, the DRM plugin is a binary blob that only Google approved browsers get to run. Then there are all the Google services that will break in unexpected ways in your browser, sometimes just because your user agent isn't identical to Chromes if past reports from Firefox users are any indication. Basically expect to be shit on by the big…

I mean, if the DRM wasn't a blob it would be open source. Andnif it were open source it wouldn't be DRM...

It's possible to have DRM that's open source using cryptography.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

ajayyy wrote: post #41
altdataseller wrote: post #39

Does anyone know when MV3 will be released, or when this will start to impact a large # of users?

MV2 will be disabled by default Chrome in January 2023, and the flag to reenable it will be removed in June

Google’s own top 10 extensions with over 10 million users is still on MV2.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by lucideer »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #17
jerheinze wrote: post #15

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It's not like no one was making warnings about this.

Someone warned years ago that proxy extensions would no longer be feasible on Chromium? I must have missed that message.

> Someone warned years ago that

No, the gp said:

> while pretending they weren't supporting google's Chrome monopoly

Monopoly means Google's interests will be served rather than the user's. This means taking away things that are of value to users / users losing control over features / etc. Like proxy extensions, yes.

Re: Proxy Chrome extensions are not going to be usable in MV3

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Post by imbnwa »

pkulak wrote: post #36
jerheinze wrote: post #15

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It's not like no one was making warnings about this.

And every time there's a bunch of replies about how great Brave is, and everyone should just use that... Chromium wrapper.

Brave has publicly declared support for Manifest v2 in perpetuity, no? They even seem to be pondering how to distribute v2 extensions post-sunset in Google Chrome[0]

[0]https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15187

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