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Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by c-fe »

ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

Strava also shares the latitude/elevation during the run. (Screenshot in case you dont have Strava https://imgur.com/PuuKo5r) What I find interesting and don't really understand is why the elevation keeps going down during the run, even though he stayed on the same track. Anyone have an idea why that could be?

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by Accacin »

yubiox wrote: post #40

I want to run but I cough for hours after running. Doc gave me an inhaler but it doesn't do anything. Any ideas? Help!

This is not medical advice, and could even be wrong.

However, I had a friend with with the same problem and he did have asthma. The thing that helped him the most was dialling it back completely. Run 1km, does that make you cough? Run 0.5km. Once you get a distance where you don't cough, run it for a week or so, then increment by another 0.5km. If you start coughing, reduce it again.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by BurningFrog »

capableweb wrote: post #24
BurningFrog wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I can't do running. I can't get over the fact that it's a painful way to get from A to A. Some optimizing party of me is always screaming WE COULD JUST HAVE STAYED AT A! Now, if they're is a ball to chase and a game to win, I can run until I fall over...

> Now, if they're is a ball to chase and a game to win, I can run until I fall over... Well, there's the solution :) Make a game out of it. Some find it helpful to reward themselves if they can reach some sort of goal (under X minutes per km) and not otherwise, then you have something of a game. Otherwise, if you're a bit competitive, find another competitive friend and compete who can run for longest without giving…

I run Bay To Breakers done years, and it's vastly easier surrounded by people who also run.

Even though they're complete strangers, there is some social pressure to keep going.

I'm sure a running group could also work for me.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by Accacin »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #35
typon wrote: post #10

How much weight did he lose? It's quite amazing how calorie dense our energy storage mechanisms are.

So a probably safe comparison is Ironmans or Ultramarathons (100 milers go for 17-18 hours for the top finishers). Usually you have to put in a huge amount of carbs per hour (50-80g/hr) and a high amount of calories (250-400 cal/hr). Hydration is obviously also very important and getting sodium will be key (1000mg/hr). Outside of that you can generally limit your body's usage of fat stores though at this length and t…

It's very hard to comsume 600 calories an hour whilst long distance running. A good thing to aim for is 200 calories as that's probably about the max your body can digest whilst running.

However, this guy is clearly superhuman so who knows :D

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by hammock »

c-fe wrote: post #51
ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

Strava also shares the latitude/elevation during the run. (Screenshot in case you dont have Strava https://imgur.com/PuuKo5r ) What I find interesting and don't really understand is why the elevation keeps going down during the run, even though he stayed on the same track. Anyone have an idea why that could be?

It’s probably based off of a barometer in a watch, not GPS, and the air pressure was changing

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by tibbon »

dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

I joined a Hash House Harriers group, which helps a lot with boredom. It's running somewhat chaotically in the woods, and you're constantly needing to find the trail. Its quite social. There are some cultural aspects around drinking and such that I don't love, but overall it is a net positive and far more engaging than other types of running for me.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by milansuk »

ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

I downloaded .gpx of the run and it's 6.7MB. He started with 4min/km pace, held it for 130km(9 hours) and then He "slowed down" almost linearly to 5min/km when he finished.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by wara23arish »

yubiox wrote: post #40

I want to run but I cough for hours after running. Doc gave me an inhaler but it doesn't do anything. Any ideas? Help!

im not a doctor but i had the same thing happen to me, but time after time i stopped coughing.

also make sure you’re breathing is correct

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by dtf »

yubiox wrote: post #40

I want to run but I cough for hours after running. Doc gave me an inhaler but it doesn't do anything. Any ideas? Help!

I've had that sometimes during the cold seasons, and usually take a puff of salbutamol before setting out. I still get it sometimes after a hard run or a race.

Maybe try reducing the dose of running (duration x intensity), until you don't suffer so much, and then slowly build up if you can over weeks. You can walk & run, couch-to-5K style, if it helps.

This little-by-little approach applies to most things in running - from training your VO2max to coming back from an injury, so it may help you. The key is to understand that the timeframe of adaptations can be weeks to months, and not to rush things.

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