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Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by 0134340 »

phantom_of_cato wrote: post #10

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They have no obligation, legally or otherwise, to host content they don't agree with. That isn't censoring. Are you censoring them for telling them what they can or can't do with their servers? You choose who you let in your house and if they say things which demean yourself, family, ie, associates, then like anyone I'm sure you might tell them you don't want to host them. If you're a store owner you have a right to tell someone to leave if they're denigrating other customers, ie, their desire, perhaps some might say right, to shop without harassment. I don't know why the obvious keeps having to be explained here.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#52

Post by amcvitty »

rco8786 wrote: post #39
sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

This is a weird criticism. No person can guarantee that some other person in the future will or will not do something.

Weird in general maybe, but I got the point: if they didn’t store the data, then future people couldn’t sell the data

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#53

Post by evandwight »

rco8786 wrote: post #39
sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

This is a weird criticism. No person can guarantee that some other person in the future will or will not do something.

The incentives encourage selling the data and there's no reason they can't just change their mind one day.

It's a weak promise and a valid criticism.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by avg_dev »

sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

I’m confused by the first claim. Is it really true? I thought TLS prevented anyone from inspecting my traffic. Am I completely off base?

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#56

Post by [deleted] »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #45
marginalia_nu wrote: post #24

Kinda uneasy about how Cloudflare is positioning themselves to have insight into a huge chunk of the Internet's traffic (very much like Google has). Even though there's no visible abuse right now, you know, Google's motto also used to be "don't be evil".

"Your ISP looks at which websites your browsing, oh the horror! Instead trust us, as an internet behemoth bigger than any ISP in the world with that data!" I also don‘t really get their argument here?

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Re: Cloudflare Warp

#57

Post by Ixiaus »

I use Cloudflare WARP for my home and smartphone and laptop. I really, really like the content policies I can configure. Getting the combo of VPN + DNS content filtering is really nice. I use it for blocking myself from accessing pornography and their security and deceptive website categories have been useful.

The interface for configuring the content policies is really easy to use too.

I also really like the browser isolation feature too - I use it to access links from emails I feel suspicious about.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#58

Post by doliveira »

mccorrinall wrote: post #36
doliveira wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like what you want is some regulation for content hosts, isn't it?

I don’t want infrastructure providers to play law enforcement. If they would have had received a court order and acted afterwards, I’d be okay with their decision. But kicking customers for marketing? Meh.

So, they did it due to commercial reasons, not legal reasons? I assume they judged the commercial repercussions and decided keeping the content was a negative. Why do you think they should host it anyway?

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#59

Post by ranger_danger »

robcohen wrote: post #26
runnerup wrote: post #9

‘eastdakota: How would you candidly compare guarantees/expectations of Mullvad VPN vs your Cloudflare Warp VPN with respect to: - privacy, but also - performance. As a side note, I really value using a certain popular torrent box VM service for $10/mo is that they provide SSH and OpenVPN. I’ve used that VPN a lot when I worked in GCC countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain) to help me get around national HTTP blocklist…

Why use openVPN anymore when you can easily use Wireguard instead?

Requires UDP, not all providers allow that, especially hotspots and places such as hotels that try to block gaming/video and such.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Post by noncoml »

sejje wrote: post #29

> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

Yup. A bit less catchy than “Don’t be evil” but it’s the same.

Cloudflare is what Google was 20 years ago.

The cycle can only break by decentralized protocols.

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