Minecraft is Microsoft's metaverse play now. Expect it to trend towards real identities and strong DRM accordingly.
It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
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Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kiwi Farms went into the realm of swatting people and trying to get people to kill themselves (with one or two successes). Of course that being said I fail to understand why more normal remedies couldn’t apply there. Swatting is a felony and hounding someone to suicide is at least very civilly actionable. Why did Cloudflare need to be the police here when regular police or the “Sandy Hook solution” seemed warranted?
Re speech - The government typically does not fare well when they try to restrict a persons speech. Re Swatting - because there was no proof. The forums actually had a pretty hard policy about anything that appeared to be swatting related and banned users immediately for it. With the forums taking a hard stance against swatting, with proof, why would they have been found liable. So because nothing was provable or ill…
Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#53It does not surprise me that the right wing channers who started bae.st after getting banned from Twitter dislike the increase in moderation on other platforms. I'm no fan of Microsoft, but on the theory that you can judge a person by the quality of their enemies, Minecraft comes out looking positively beatific here.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#54Microsoft customer service is abysmal everywhere. I’m currently battling a $20 azure bill that I’m unsure how to pay, customer support keeps directing me to the billing section, which, as I’ve told them, tells me I’m not authorised to access, despite being the subscription owner. Microsoft UX everywhere I’ve seen is horrible and I feel ripe for disruption. Given the shit they’ve put me through with azure the past 18…
The Minecraft account migration process was awful too. It's a mishmash of Microsoft, X-Box, and Outlook/Live branding all with sites that work differently and options are spread around them seemingly at random. By default you can't even play online, you have to track down an obscure option in X-Box chat preferences to allow you to join servers. It was even worse for me because some bot registered for a Microsoft acco…
> The Minecraft account migration
Just to add onto this rant against Microsoft...
... I cannot use my Microsoft account because it was hacked and stolen. I would get emails several times each year saying that there's suspicious activity but I can't log in. When I try to log in then Microsoft sends me through account recovery and asks questions about my real life that were never associated with the account.
So I'm royally pissed that Minecraft has migrated to it. I've lost all of the time and the little amount of money spent.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#55Microsoft customer service is abysmal everywhere. I’m currently battling a $20 azure bill that I’m unsure how to pay, customer support keeps directing me to the billing section, which, as I’ve told them, tells me I’m not authorised to access, despite being the subscription owner. Microsoft UX everywhere I’ve seen is horrible and I feel ripe for disruption. Given the shit they’ve put me through with azure the past 18…
The Minecraft account migration process was awful too. It's a mishmash of Microsoft, X-Box, and Outlook/Live branding all with sites that work differently and options are spread around them seemingly at random. By default you can't even play online, you have to track down an obscure option in X-Box chat preferences to allow you to join servers. It was even worse for me because some bot registered for a Microsoft acco…
I've implemented oauth with the new flow, and jeesh it runs through so many layers:
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#56I strongly disagree with Microsoft's stance. But I also think the issue is way overblown.
You can simply mod servers so that they don't have this chat reporting. If everyone in the Minecraft community is so opposed, just create and exclusively join modded servers. Does not matter if they get labeled "Not Secure" if 90% of well-known popular servers have it, and there are tools and tutorials everywhere which make it so easy to set up even a 9-year old can do it.
What if Microsoft tries to force servers to enable chat reporting in a future update? Nope, not going to happen. Minecraft is nearly open-source and the amount of modders who care about this is huge, the technical and legal resources to do so are just not worth it.
I do get that Microsoft is obnoxiously tone-deaf with this, and I believe it's a terrible idea which is barely legal (revoking people's access to what they bought on shoddy evidence - if this actually starts happening to a lot of people I hope they get sued). But it's just - people are saying "Minecraft is dead". Minecraft is not remotely dead.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#57I think at this point it's best for us to just let minecraft die.
I haven't played a single hour of the game since they shutdown mojang accounts. There's just no way in hell I'm paying for a realm where I can't say naughty words in chat.
Notch introduced a whole new genre of gaming - let's look towards new games in this category rather than trying to inhabit the corpse of Microsoft Minecraft 365.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't follow Minecraft or this issue closely, this is pure speculation, but MS could be trying to extinguish self hosted servers and would prefer all players playing on official Mincraft servers.
Yes, self-hosted servers, hypixel, etc, and java edition are clearly the target. It was bad enough having to pay twice for the same game (java edition, then bedrock edition, as some of their friends could only play the microsoft edition on their Nintendo Switches, etc). But if microsoft cause the 3rd party ecosystem of servers and mods to close down forcing everyone onto microsoft servers, I will ban my kids from pla…
Bedrock Edition and Java Edition licenses have been "merged."
That being said, if you're banning your kids from playing Minecraft because Microsoft Bad, that's just shitty.
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#59Minetest is probably the best Minecraft alternative; it's free and open source software, which avoids the danger associated with centralized retaliation systems like the one Microsoft is operating. Also, it's easier to write mods for, partly because mods are written in Lua, and you don't have to install mods on the client, just the server. https://www.minetest.net/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Fyav6FiIs The vide…
Minetest is like a platform, and for anyone wanting a Minecraft-clone based on it:
Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over
#60Can you just ignore Minecraft's own chat system and use a 3rd party one (perhaps pasting a link to the Minecraft's one for players to join)?
Many useful server plugins use chat commands for certain features. The in-game whisper chat feature might also need more configuration to emulate it in the external chat.
A Discord server would probably be the best solution.