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More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by tenpies »

unmole wrote: post #20
subjectsigma wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

> We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media How do we know this?

I would argue that the greatest thing the Russians ever did was convince the West they were pros at manipulating social media.

The FBI literally interfered with the 2020 US election because they were that afraid of the Russians. Russia didn't even have to do anything, the FBI did it all for them out of an unearned reputation.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by popilewiz »

tenpies wrote: post #50
HereIGoAgain wrote: post #41

This is really a surprise to anyone? Russia may have more resources than Ukraine, but pretty much the entire world is on the latter's side. Especially social and major media. Bots are one of the reason that NO social media should ever be used to get "public opinions" on anything! Not just via likes/votes either!

There's a fascinating contrast in strategies: Ukraine went fast and aggressive with the Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island propaganda. Russia: silence. And you see it still today. Just this week, Ukraine claimed a pensioner shot down a Russian plane with a rifle. Meanwhile Russia just releases very dry Ministry of Defence updates. I'm not sure if it's a strategy or a focus on domestic approval over foreign, but it sure i…

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by [deleted] »

subjectsigma wrote: post #43
unmole wrote: post #23

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Running an ad campaign is considered being a pro at manipulating social media? What did the campaign actually achieve?

If their goal was to sow fear and uncertainty, they achieved it. If it was to get people to vote for Trump, they absolutely achieved that as well, although it's unclear if he would have won without it.

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by unmole »

subjectsigma wrote: post #43
unmole wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running an ad campaign is considered being a pro at manipulating social media? What did the campaign actually achieve?

If their goal was to sow fear and uncertainty, they achieved it. If it was to get people to vote for Trump, they absolutely achieved that as well, although it's unclear if he would have won without it.

My goal was to make it rain today and I achieved it.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by subjectsigma »

unmole wrote: post #54
subjectsigma wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If their goal was to sow fear and uncertainty, they achieved it. If it was to get people to vote for Trump, they absolutely achieved that as well, although it's unclear if he would have won without it.

My goal was to make it rain today and I achieved it.

It is very obvious what you are trying to do. That's not an argument and you know it.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by p6way »

tenpies wrote: post #50
HereIGoAgain wrote: post #41

This is really a surprise to anyone? Russia may have more resources than Ukraine, but pretty much the entire world is on the latter's side. Especially social and major media. Bots are one of the reason that NO social media should ever be used to get "public opinions" on anything! Not just via likes/votes either!

There's a fascinating contrast in strategies: Ukraine went fast and aggressive with the Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island propaganda. Russia: silence. And you see it still today. Just this week, Ukraine claimed a pensioner shot down a Russian plane with a rifle. Meanwhile Russia just releases very dry Ministry of Defence updates. I'm not sure if it's a strategy or a focus on domestic approval over foreign, but it sure i…

I watch Russian news, every evening they show about the killed hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers and liberated cities.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Post by IYasha »

jim-jim-jim wrote: post #35
ShivShankaran wrote: post #24

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2005, Modi was the villian and banned from US https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-narendra-modi-was-banned-fr... Followed by Saddam, then it was Assad, then it was Gaddafi Then it was little rocket man. 2019 it was Xi. 2020 it was Trump. 2022 it's Putin. I am taking bets on who the propaganda is going to nominate in 2023. Nominees are: Saudi Arabia MBS, Iran Ali Kamanei, Imran Khan, Modi (again), North Korea (again), So…

Australian media has already been seething nonstop about the Solomons for months now. A certain switch was flicked in March and now they're very, very corrupt and antidemocratic: so much so that we require daily reminders.

I see a pattern there )
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