What sort of telemetry are they using for this, I wonder?
GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
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Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#52The initial call to deprecate this page was quite obviously driven by usage telemetry (i.e. "engagement" metrics), rather than actually speaking to users about what they like and don't like. I suspect that companies sometimes believe they can automate their way into quality designs, by relying on analytics, rather than empathizing deeply with their customers.
> The initial call to deprecate this page was quite obviously driven by usage telemetry (i.e. "engagement" metrics) yeah, they said that. > rather than actually speaking to users about what they like and don't like how do you suggest they talk to their users to do this? less than 1% of people invited to take a survey actually take the survey. however, when you say you want to remove something, those who use it make t…
Maybe add a page-improvement survey banner, where one option is to take the survey and another is to say "it does all that I need" and another is "I don't need it". Note on the banner that this is about the page not seeing much use.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#53The initial call to deprecate this page was quite obviously driven by usage telemetry (i.e. "engagement" metrics), rather than actually speaking to users about what they like and don't like. I suspect that companies sometimes believe they can automate their way into quality designs, by relying on analytics, rather than empathizing deeply with their customers.
I was recently listening to GGG founder Chris Wilson and he was discussing how analytics can easily misfire if you do not apply them in a more conscious way. In his story, when reviewing logs someone saw that there was a big drop in engagement from quest A to quest B ( people stopped playing for a while between those two events ). What Wilson explained is that it is not exactly a surprise. Quest A effectively marks t…
That’s a good perspective from Chris. Did not expect to see this mentioned though with the current mutiny happening by their players.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#54I do find it a little odd all the comments in this thread are focusing on it as though it was a straight telemetry/metric decision. From the update, this feels more like it was problem area for maintenance purposes, then had its telemetry assessed for decision. "The data pipeline that powers the page has historically proven problematic to maintain and so given the low usage, we decided to switch off the Trending page…
Since Microsoft acquisition GitHub quality seems in decline, constant outages, git pushes that doesn't goes through while status page is green and now the attempt to remove trending page... Is it the end of the original GitHub's spirit as a social coding?
Honestly, I don't really see it. GitHub's availability has never been great and it doesn't really seem worse now aside from having more features to go wrong.
I haven't seen much change at all since the acquisition personally. Probably the only thing I can pick out is their dropping of Atom in favour of vscode.
What have you specifically seen change since the MS acquisition that's likely from MS and not just GitHub?
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#55lol I can't believe the bitchers and moaners here (and I assume elsewhere) got them to change their minds.
The proper usage of github is: go to the main repo main page to get the clone URL; go to the issues page to file an issue if the projects uses them; go to the PR page to make a PR if the project uses them. Every other page may as well not exist.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#56I do find it a little odd all the comments in this thread are focusing on it as though it was a straight telemetry/metric decision. From the update, this feels more like it was problem area for maintenance purposes, then had its telemetry assessed for decision. "The data pipeline that powers the page has historically proven problematic to maintain and so given the low usage, we decided to switch off the Trending page…
Since Microsoft acquisition GitHub quality seems in decline, constant outages, git pushes that doesn't goes through while status page is green and now the attempt to remove trending page... Is it the end of the original GitHub's spirit as a social coding?
I don’t agree with this statement. Im happy to see the innovation that have come out from GitHub in the last years.
What im really missing and hoping for is an even more open and extensible community platform. Discussions is a good start, it would love to more innovation there.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is bad logic. Almost everyone goes to the doctor in a year. And again, what is the importance of a doctor’s office. I once used a security tool that looked at the world in a very narrow sense. Despite being a general purpose tool, it would often flag really bad false-positives like “this security group allows all ingress!”, while applied to zero resources, while completely missing other, real, consequential issu…
> This is bad logic. Almost everyone goes to the doctor in a year. They do? I'm not even making a point about developing countries and access to healthcare, I assume 'everyone' was implicitly 'everyone here' or in developed countries or whatever. But I would be incredibly surprised if that's true here in the UK. Is it an artefact of US health insurance that you can typically claim a 'check-up' per year (so why not ev…
> Is it an artefact of US health insurance that you can typically claim a 'check-up' per year (so why not even if not needed, you paid for it)
The point of a yearly checkup is because, at population scale, people can't know if it's needed or not. Tons of issues only present themselves subtly or not at all until it's too late, or just the fact that most people aren't knowledgeable enough to differentiate issues from normal body things. While less advised for younger people, as you get older it's advised to get a yearly blood check to make sure nothing is trending out of balance.
All that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if most people didn't get a yearly checkup in the US either, even thought it's fairly widespread common sense to do so.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#58I do find it a little odd all the comments in this thread are focusing on it as though it was a straight telemetry/metric decision. From the update, this feels more like it was problem area for maintenance purposes, then had its telemetry assessed for decision. "The data pipeline that powers the page has historically proven problematic to maintain and so given the low usage, we decided to switch off the Trending page…
Since Microsoft acquisition GitHub quality seems in decline, constant outages, git pushes that doesn't goes through while status page is green and now the attempt to remove trending page... Is it the end of the original GitHub's spirit as a social coding?
Not sure what you mean by "quality is in decline".
I'm pretty happy (much like others) with GitHub now more than ever. Github has been releasing new features left and right.
Some of them are an unwelcome sight (think Github Badges) while others (think Github Issues) are a super productive enhancement imo.
Re: GitHub backtracks on deprecating the trending tabs page
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
People new to GitHub want to create a repository and do a git push, nothing else.
Ooh guessing game! Here's my entry. People new to GitHub arrive by searching for . They read the readme.md and then follow the installation instructions.
I knew someone would comment this, but I wouldn't consider those as "GitHub users", because they are not registering, and are not interacting with anything on GitHub. They only care about the specific repository they are viewing, not the platform.
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