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Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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I like that they asked actual users, and provided actual examples; it's something I've always felt off about Instagram's Reels vs TikTok. However the takeaway is that your TikTok feed is curated by hand by artisan robots vs Instagram is curated by lizards who only care about data. Both companies are completely data driven with some amazing engineers; but why is the Reels product boring, while TikTok is engaging has t…

Maybe TikTok trains on product data and validates on expert human rater data? This is a strategy that search engines used to use. Maybe they still do, but they used to too.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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post #37

Time to trot out http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/metcalfe.pdf again. (Yes, I am one of the co-authors.) Multiple lines of evidence point to the basic value of a social network scaling like `O(n log(n))`. So getting your first million users is hard. But after you've got there, you don't have to be that much better than the competition to win. The conclusion is that social networks should be a lot less sticky and d…

> MySpace was overtaken by Friendster

Did that ever happen? Was it a US thing? I've heard of Friendster, but I thought it was something that MySpace killed and then MySpace went global and then got overtaken by Facebook.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#53

Now ask the same question for YouTube shorts ;) Hah. Google is pushing shorts hard these days. Honestly, they need to give an option not to show shorts. In most cases, shorts are either from TikTok from the same content creator or re-uploaded by some random person. Even if I liked topic X on shorts, it never suggests similar shorts. It is hard to believe that Google cannot crack the correct algo to show interesting r…

Ah you do have the option to not show shorts but you need to be logged in

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Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#54
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah you do have the option to not show shorts but you need to be logged in

In the android App? Where? Could you please share.

I dont think it's possible. I wish I could scroll in them.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don’t care if the Chinese government knows everything about me. Much more worried about the American government.

Any entity that knows so much about you can manipulate you in ways you won’t suspect. Their government isn’t held back by the Constitution and they probably wouldn’t hesitate to influence the citizenry of their main rival on the world stage.

The US government isn't really held back by the Constitution either. It's been diluted so much they can just use Canada as a proxy and return the favour, for example, no problem. I agree with your overall point but it's not really a legal matter, it's just power.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#56

I am very confident the image at the top of this article is generated by any of these currently popular text-to-image models. This feels like the beginning of ignoring artworks I see online, foreshadowed by header images at the start of tech blogs.

This generated image is much more interesting than most stock photos. Stock photos don't have any details, they are meant to be simple and bland. This one is somewhat fun.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#57
post #44

And instead of playing to their strengths, IG tries to jump and chase a competitor. Doesn't look like a very smart move

IG jumped and chased Snapchat with stories and that was an incredibly smart / successful move. The same strategy isn't panning out with reels, for whatever reason.

I think it's because they complement better. To be fair, "stories"/snaps are not a product, they are a feature.

Reels/Tktks involve a different type of content producer than regular stories. On that side, it is "closer" to YT than regular IG

And that I think is the impedance mismatch between IG and the Reels side

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#58
Instagram isn’t dying. It’s the default app while commuting, bored, taking a dump, “looked at all my other apps and I’m bored, mindless app surfing, etc.

Also, Instagram adds value as an app that people truly enjoy from a consumption standpoint.

It’s not going anyway.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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post #46
post #10

I disagree with their premise that Reels is "performative" while TikTok is "authentic". They could have cherry picked other sample posts to demonstrate the exact opposite. They're both equally performative & inauthentic.

Yes I think the real factor is that the TikTok feed was more relevant to that age group and Instagram was more relevant to 30 something parents and home owners. Also it sounds as if the users had previously spent more time generating curated feeds on TikTok.

Knowing about a dozen people who spent more time in Instagram Reels and then switched to TikToks I don't know that that's true - it seems accurate to me. Personally I used Reels and YT Shorts for a few months before TikTok but the second is far better.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#60

I like that they asked actual users, and provided actual examples; it's something I've always felt off about Instagram's Reels vs TikTok. However the takeaway is that your TikTok feed is curated by hand by artisan robots vs Instagram is curated by lizards who only care about data. Both companies are completely data driven with some amazing engineers; but why is the Reels product boring, while TikTok is engaging has t…

As a millennial I can tell you exactly why TikTok is better:

1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work.

2. Reels are often poor quality. What I see is mostly life hacks that are actually really stupid or jokes that never pay off.

3. TikTok has a creator culture that seems far superior to Reels. What Facebook/Instagram seem to fail to realize is that the problem they have isn’t a lack of a video platform but rather a lack culture. TikTok somehow did foster a really cool culture of people creating content, perhaps using their stitches feature.

4. Instagram is a photo sharing platform. Imagine if every other thing you saw on TikTok was a still photo. It would be jarring. That’s the current experience with reels.

5. I don’t know if this is actually true but it feels to me that you can get a lot more exposure quickly on TikTok than with Reels. I don’t post TikTok videos but know enough people who do and it seems they are very much able to get tens of thousands of views with minimal effort and while being relatively new to the platform. I don’t think you can get those numbers with Reels.

6. TikTok nailed ads. They are obvious, easy to skip, and not jarring at all. Instagram is a mess.

7. I come to Instagram to seek specific kind of content from my friends. I get reels from total strangers. I come to TikTok to get lols from random strangers and sometimes see friends. This is very personal but this is a major reason for me to use both and to dislike Reels.

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