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Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

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If I'm reading this correctly, the extension sends every URL you use it on to some random service hosted on Cloudflare workers [1]. That doesn't sound good... [1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jorgefsilva/beatthatwall/m...

why do so many need a CDN recently?

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with paywalls is the bait and switch - you push the whole content for SEO then force users to pay money. Nobody cares if you want to sell the secrets of the universe for $5000/mo. We care about the bait and switch. By setting up this bait and switch, you hurt your own paywall - if the search engine can get a full copy, so can I. Want these extensions to stop working? Stop the bait and switch.

Why is that relevant? They've created their content - if they want to share it with a search engine that's none of your business. The technology does not allow them to do this without sharing it with you as well. But that is ethically irrelevant. (Of course, we also deserve a good search engine allowing us to remove paywalled sites and seo spam from our results.)

Publishers are subverting users' reasonable expectations that the information they search and receive hits for on Google is publicly accessible—why else would it appear in search?

It's actually everyone's business because this creates a web that is less usable for everyone. If publishers were willing to commit and make their paid content server-side for customers only, they would have a stronger case against infringers.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#53
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with paywalls is the bait and switch - you push the whole content for SEO then force users to pay money. Nobody cares if you want to sell the secrets of the universe for $5000/mo. We care about the bait and switch. By setting up this bait and switch, you hurt your own paywall - if the search engine can get a full copy, so can I. Want these extensions to stop working? Stop the bait and switch.

> By setting up this bait and switch, you hurt your own paywall - if the search engine can get a full copy, so can I. I don’t get this. They do whatever they want with their content. Editors give free book copies to journalists; that doesn’t gives you the right to have one as well.

You can't give a free copy to the local library to drive sales and be upset when people borrow the book and read it from the local library.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#54
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with paywalls is the bait and switch - you push the whole content for SEO then force users to pay money. Nobody cares if you want to sell the secrets of the universe for $5000/mo. We care about the bait and switch. By setting up this bait and switch, you hurt your own paywall - if the search engine can get a full copy, so can I. Want these extensions to stop working? Stop the bait and switch.

> By setting up this bait and switch, you hurt your own paywall - if the search engine can get a full copy, so can I. I don’t get this. They do whatever they want with their content. Editors give free book copies to journalists; that doesn’t gives you the right to have one as well.

...and if they post their content to the public, the public can read it. Giving content to journalists is not the same as giving your content to Google to index in their search engine and caches. The later is not private.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that relevant? They've created their content - if they want to share it with a search engine that's none of your business. The technology does not allow them to do this without sharing it with you as well. But that is ethically irrelevant. (Of course, we also deserve a good search engine allowing us to remove paywalled sites and seo spam from our results.)

"FREE VACATIONS! (you have to sit through a timeshare presentation and there are catches" We widely regard the above as unethical. Adding content to a search engine literally says "you can come read this content!". That is the purpose of search engines. Even Google penalizes paywall behavior and will downrank them - which forces the paywall people to get more clever. Sorry but don't abuse search engines and users to…

I wouldn't say it is necessarily immature to use a paywall as opposed to ads. I for one sometimes prefer paying for a site just so i dont have to see ads.

Though I do agree, the bait and switch aspect of finessing seo and such leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Glad google penalizes such behavior

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#56
replace https:// of a paywall site with archive.is/

no extension needed.

And if you want to use Google cache (and Google is your main search engine) just add ? in front of URL and with two clicks (dots->cached) you get to the cached version of Google.

again no extension needed.

Stay safe.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#57
post #38

Looking at the source, it seems like the page is proxied through a CloudFlare worker black box called “cfworker-beatthatwall.jayass.workers.dev”. It would be easier to trust if all the work was done locally.

Exactly. This type of extension should 100% be blocked from the official store. That said, the userscript is working as intended so far.

Just for some context, Google did block this one, but there's a ton of extensions on the store that do similar things and are not blocked. Google's review process for chrome extensions is weak.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#58
post #40

EGAD! Has the internet matured enough so that what was old is new again? Dedicated websites that are independent of a centralised controlling body? What a brilliant idea! Those ol' greybeards were on to something

I've had several YouTube ads telling me I should use a "hybrid" approach to self host some of my services, on hardware in my building , to keep cost down. I had to check a calendar to see what year it was!

My first webserver was the most frankenputer I have used to date. I had a friend that was at one of the large colo companies in town. He had a bunch of computer parts that he cobbled together with no case. They were hanging on the wall so that the mobo was flat against a dry erase wall, the PSU was on the desk with cables up to the hanging mobo, the HDD was velcroed to the dry erase wall next to the mobo. Talking about keeping costs down.

Re: Google blocked my Chrome extension so I created a website to host it

#59
post #37
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes that is correct. The random web service fetches a copy of the cached version of the page. If you're interested I can show you the source code

Please do!

+1, I'd love to see the server-side code as well!
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