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Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by d4mi3n »

Entinel wrote: post #38
mimimi31 wrote: post #22

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Kagi ( https://kagi.com ) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Kagi is a weird beast. I'd like to use it but I also don't understand how searches are private if I have to login. Not understanding that is definitely on me but I feel like it should be a frequent enough question that they try to make the answer obvious.

This is an absolutely valid concern. The answer here, unfortunate as it is, is trust. There's probably things they can do here to remove the need for an actual identity (Mullvad's payment model comes to mind), but I suspect that takes more legal/financial infrastructure than they have access to at the moment.

PS: I am not a lawyer, but for what it's worth, if you _pay_ for Kagi and they advertise their privacy policy as a feature you pay for (see https://kagi.com/privacy), one could reasonable sue for false advertising or demand a refund for not providing a promised service. This would make any pushback subject to consumer protection laws in addition to whatever nascent privacy law they may be subject to.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by lolinder »

Entinel wrote: post #38
mimimi31 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi ( https://kagi.com ) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Kagi is a weird beast. I'd like to use it but I also don't understand how searches are private if I have to login. Not understanding that is definitely on me but I feel like it should be a frequent enough question that they try to make the answer obvious.

There's not much to understand about it, you just have to take their word for it that they're not storing anything. There's no way for the clients to enforce that, and I can't figure out any model that they could use to have a paid search engine that can guarantee privacy with zero trust. (Edit: a sibling points out Mullvad's payment model would help towards guaranteeing pseudonymity)

I pay for Kagi less as a privacy thing and more because it's a better search engine and consistently gets me better results than Google does.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by usefulcat »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #45
usefulcat wrote: post #37

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Vanilla Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Every couple of months or so I update all the packages and reboot. That's really all the maintenance I've ever done on it, apart from initial setup. I ought to set it up so that it can email me if a zfs scrub ever detects a problem, but I haven't done that yet.

Thanks! That's a valuable data point for my comparison. By the way, do you run software like Nextcloud, or are you just using it as a storage tank?

I use syncthing and Plex, other than that it’s mostly just storage

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by palata »

andirk wrote: post #49
metalliqaz wrote: post #43

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I thought Brave was just a web browser with built-in adblock, but after your comment I decided to look it up on wikipedia. Holey moley, what a nightmare.

It's by far the best browser out there. Based on Chromium. Doesn't allow websites to abuse its technical capabilities (i.e. share your data via 3rd party ad servers). You can tip content creators. You can partake in the community and all the things Brave is building, or just use the browser in its default state. If you want a crypto + search laughing stock, check out https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/presearch/ .

Depends on your definition of "best browser" I guess...

My best browser is Firefox, precisely because it is not based on Chromium.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

usefulcat wrote: post #53
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #45

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Thanks! That's a valuable data point for my comparison. By the way, do you run software like Nextcloud, or are you just using it as a storage tank?

I use syncthing and Plex, other than that it’s mostly just storage

Ok, thanks again!

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by drittich »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #10
rasulkireev wrote: post #2

Recently installed YaCy on my Synology via docker image the provide. Already saved about 10Gb of content interesting to me. Now, I have a personal Search Engine. Awesome.

Off-topic, but how do you like Synology? I'm familiar with one of their units for work, but I'm looking into a new NAS for my home, and I'm trying to decide between Synology or building my own and putting Nextcloud on it.

I like Synology a lot but mainly use it for storage/backup. It's a very expensive way to host containers IMO. I would look to a Mac Mini for something like that.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by rasulkireev »

mtlynch wrote: post #27
bityard wrote: post #21

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There are lots of settings because it's very powerful software. I don't understand the part about being overwhelmed... surely the developers have chosen sane defaults for most things and you can just ignore the ones you don't understand?

That wasn't my experience. YaCy didn't do what I wanted out of the box, so I was just left with 100+ settings that I didn't know how to adjust to get to a desired state.

What did you want to use it for, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by metalliqaz »

palata wrote: post #55
andirk wrote: post #49

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It's by far the best browser out there. Based on Chromium. Doesn't allow websites to abuse its technical capabilities (i.e. share your data via 3rd party ad servers). You can tip content creators. You can partake in the community and all the things Brave is building, or just use the browser in its default state. If you want a crypto + search laughing stock, check out https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/presearch/ .

Depends on your definition of "best browser" I guess... My best browser is Firefox, precisely because it is not based on Chromium.

Same. I wonder what the web would look like now if not for Mozilla fighting for open web standards.

I guess I don't really have to wonder. I could just factory reset any Pixel phone, swipe to the news feed, and click on any story. It's literally hard to find the content (drivel) between the advertisements and screen hijacking bullshit.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

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Post by matheusmoreira »

upupandup wrote: post #28
alxjsn wrote: post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

I see Brave. I close tab. I don't trust them or anybody that pushes their offerings which are just crypto ponzi schemes.

I understand that HN hates crypto but calling everything a ponzi scheme is just absurd. They just made a currency to pay users with.
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