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Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#51
Why are not the two comparatively huge browsers (at least to Tor and Brave!) Edge or Safari covered in the "Learn more" section? How do these compare to Chrome. I feel like they are obliged to cover them if they put them in the other "less respecting" list.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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You guys will eventually have to get over that old "blink is chrome" trope. The world has moved on. It's time that you do.

Yes, as if the rendering engine is the only part of a browser.

The main part of the browser is its main developer. In this case it is Google. If Google decides to add QUIC support to the browser it will appear in all of the clones too, because they are not standalone. If Google decides to move to the Manifest V3 then all closes will move to it too. Whatever Google decides to implement deep in the Chrome browser, other will have no choice but to accept.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, as if the rendering engine is the only part of a browser.

The main part of the browser is its main developer. In this case it is Google. If Google decides to add QUIC support to the browser it will appear in all of the clones too, because they are not standalone. If Google decides to move to the Manifest V3 then all closes will move to it too. Whatever Google decides to implement deep in the Chrome browser, other will have no choice but to accept.

That's false. For example, Brave will continue supporting Manifest V2.

https://nitter.net/BrendanEich/status/1134141335881912320

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059#issuecom...

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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It's good to see Firefox on top of this list. Is Protonmail usually accessed through web clients? I only use native iOS client and MacOS Mail with the Bridge app. Somehow I would expect Protonmail users to not use the web client so much, maybe I am wrong.

You can only use a desktop app if you pay for protonmail. I suppose almost all protonmail users are free users and therefore they can only use the website.

I pay for Protonmail and use the web client on desktop.

I hope that many other are paying users too, because there are no ads. And without paying clients, how can a service like Protonmail survive?

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#56

Why is safari/webkit not in there. It my understanding that it's the most privacy respecting browser in the area of finger printing.

Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112

It says the collected browsing data is not linked to the user's identity. Still a bad move by Apple.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#57

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

They also still have trouble with websockets. Sometimes it just fails to reconnect, and will not work before restarting the browser or opening a private window. This is what drove me away from it, as well as recommending our clients to use another browser. There's an issue here from april 21 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15410 which initially seemed geared towards Phoenix Liveview, but others have trouble with other frameworks and applications as well it seems.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#58

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

It's opt in. I don't see any Brave ads nor I use any crypto stuff, it's completely optional, and it helps them pay their bills.

I prefer it better than for a browser to get 100 millions $ from Google

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#59

Why is safari/webkit not in there. It my understanding that it's the most privacy respecting browser in the area of finger printing.

Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112

Your statement seems to leave away some important "details", so here is the full text from your link:

The following data may be collected but it is not linked to your identity: Location Browsing History Usage Data Diagnostics

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

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Kind of funny that they included Pale Moon, IceCat, and SeaMonkey but not ungoogled-chromium, which imo is effectively the best compromise between privacy & a modern usable browser -- the only downside is the hardship of installing extensions manually.

And no Vivaldi mention
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