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A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
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Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#52There's much more to a fast website than ttfb/fmp on a single page load with a cold cache. The fact this kilobyte fetishism on HN is still so rife in 2022 is ridiculous.
Edit: I wrote this after reading some comments. The article is interesting and not an attack on its author.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#53It's true but not realistic as soon as the website is more than a blog or a static content website. The goal of good web building is to manage to deliver the most value to consumers and the business, and removing what's not needed, and if you add anything, you make it on a performance oriented way. Bloat will always infiltrates itself, so you must clean again and again. I operate e-commerce websites and we went throu…
Hell, my blog is static HTML (mostly) but my most recent post is 40,000 characters in Markdown before adding HTML tags, that's already too big even just as text.
Have you gziped it? The website of in OP is 30k uncompressed of HTML.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#54It's true but not realistic as soon as the website is more than a blog or a static content website. The goal of good web building is to manage to deliver the most value to consumers and the business, and removing what's not needed, and if you add anything, you make it on a performance oriented way. Bloat will always infiltrates itself, so you must clean again and again. I operate e-commerce websites and we went throu…
I’m from Philippines I wonder what your e-commerce does. But I agree there is no decent web hosting here.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#55This made me check my own site[1], the page itself is tiny(3kb). It's the images that get me, and they're svgs. Gotta be something wrong there too, an svg shouldn't be 75kb.
edit: nevermind, svg is 13kb, don't know what I was mistaking there.
[0] - www.reciped.io
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#56Shameless self-promotion: the homepage of plaintextsports.com is 5.2kb today [1], an in-progress WNBA game (4th quarter) is 11.2kb [2], and an extra inning MLB game is 8.8kb [3]. I wasn't aware of this size threshold, and I'm not at this level of optimization, but I'm always pleased to find more evidence of my playful claim that it's the "fastest website in the history of the internet". [1]: https://plaintextsports.c…
It's very small, but it's difficult to scan and painful to read. You could easily use built-in HTML structures to make it actually readable. Your site is, in my opinion, as much a deviation from the old readable web as the over-designed modern sites are. There are lots[1] of small, "class-less" CSS libraries that would keep your site as small (or smaller, with tree-shaking in a modern build system) and it would end u…
The Light Mode toggle pretty much fixed it for me. Dark Mode on this was harsh and difficult to scan/read
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#57Honestly, "should" is a bit of a click-baity exaggeration. In this day and age where internet speeds are faster and more stable than ever, these kinds of tips should be at the very bottom of your optimisations checklist. I don't care if your website takes 3 seconds to load or 5, what I do care about is that once the website has loaded, my inputs respond as quickly as possible. Reddit for example is total garbage when…
Mobile data is very inconsistent when in rural areas. The best speed I got in an urban areas was around 800Mbit/s but I have seen speeds in some rural areas closer to 1Mbit/s to 3Mbit/s. That is in the UK, not a 3rd world country.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#58Shameless self-promotion: the homepage of plaintextsports.com is 5.2kb today [1], an in-progress WNBA game (4th quarter) is 11.2kb [2], and an extra inning MLB game is 8.8kb [3]. I wasn't aware of this size threshold, and I'm not at this level of optimization, but I'm always pleased to find more evidence of my playful claim that it's the "fastest website in the history of the internet". [1]: https://plaintextsports.c…
I'm not at this level of optimization
I think you are! It's less work to keep it simple, than to make it heavy then try to pare it back.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#59That's only doable with a text-centric website. I'm currently finishing a photography section for my personal website, and the gallery pages are several hundred kBs in size, while single photo page is almost 1MB in size (provided you load it on a 28" screen; browser will load smaller variants on smaller screens). Most of that weight is the thumbnails (and almost-full-size photo in the latter case). The only JS I have…
1MB per photo is fine. It's the content after all. Many sites today will load 10MB of JS and custom font crap alone, just to show a few paragraphs of text. I don't think the point is the size itself, but it's the content vs. bloat ratio.
1MB per photo is massive. Its easy to compress photos down to 100KB or less.
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page
#60Honestly, "should" is a bit of a click-baity exaggeration. In this day and age where internet speeds are faster and more stable than ever, these kinds of tips should be at the very bottom of your optimisations checklist. I don't care if your website takes 3 seconds to load or 5, what I do care about is that once the website has loaded, my inputs respond as quickly as possible. Reddit for example is total garbage when…
Yes, but you should also be mindful that if your site is being viewed by an international audience. A 3 second load time on an average local internet connection can be a minute long load time elsewhere in the world.
.. or on a train in a tunnel in your very own city.