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OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by nbzso »

cocokechun wrote: post #26
cocokechun wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally hear your concerns! There's this article "I Went Viral in the Bad Way" from a write from The Atlantic - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/62fc502abcb... . He got criticized so hard for using an AI-generated in his newsletter instead of paying an artist to do the work. People's concerns are valid and real. Yet, we can also imagine a future that "lower-level" artistic work can be achieved by AI,…

We hope https://openart.ai can be used by both Dalle-2 enthusiasts as well as artists to draw inspiration for amazing artwork.

Sorry, whichever way you flip this, Inspiration is used again and again to hide the real intent of this technology: To remove artistic contribution from the corporate expenses list. Period.

And this is just the beginning. Illustrators are the low-hanging fruit, they have no unions to protect them, they were undervalued for ages even before the digital age.

Human made digital art will be competing with synthesis and generative processes for minimum pay, the regular Joe will have no doubt that the AI "Art" is better.

The main problem with this tech is that I have no clear answer of the question: Who benefits from this "advancement"? Artists? Or corporations?

To become a good artist, I have spent all my life practicing from anatomy through composition and color theory. Can you imagine the stupidity of my choice? Any schmuck with a computer and prompt collection will be a master of Arts soon.

The war between Hollywood and Silicon Valley has reached the new high. The "geniuses" which scraped all the stock websites and created this monstrosity, in my view, must be named "The Spirit Crushers" from now on.

But hey, it is too late. The genie is out of the bottle. So who is next?

I stopped my successful art career years ago over different reasons. But now I see my choice in a different light.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by fragmede »

andrewstuart wrote: post #44

If this let me search for "spaceship", "castle", "map", or "dungeon" then I would have been extremely happy. As an aside, has anyone seen any AI generated boardgame boards?

https://watabou.itch.io/village-generator is lovely, though I don't know the backend specifics.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by cocokechun »

andrewstuart wrote: post #44

If this let me search for "spaceship", "castle", "map", or "dungeon" then I would have been extremely happy. As an aside, has anyone seen any AI generated boardgame boards?

We are adding the search functionality. It will be there within 1-2 weeks :) Stay tuned! Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by cocokechun »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #42

Has anybody seriously compared Dalle2 with Midjourney? I know that midjourney is a relative no-name but personal testing with the same prompts give me better results (matches expectations) on midjourney.

This article did a pretty thorough analysis on comparison on Midjourney and Dalle2 - https://dallery.gallery/midjourney-guide-ai-art-explained/.

A quick summary: Midjourney’s images are usually more aesthetically pleasing than DALL·E, and the model is still adaptable and responsive to stylistic prompts. That makes it a great tool if you want to generate a lot of pleasant images quickly.

Dalle-2 is capable of delivering a wider range of visual styles. As a result, you’re much more likely to craft a surprising or amusing result, or create a never-before-seen image. It’s less likely the image will seem ‘AI-like’. You can also feel more confident that other users haven’t generated very similar images.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by avian »

tkgally wrote: post #43
dwohnitmok wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...while higher-level artistic work will be done by artists, assisted by AI. Artists can get inspiration from AI artwork and reduce some tedious parts of their workflow. I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists (and more generally how increasing AI capabilities don't just replace any career that does not involve some degree of skil…

> I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists I agree that AI engines like DALL-E seem like a threat to many commercial artists, especially those whose name and personality are not closely associated with their works. Magazine illustrators are one example. For some artists, though, the artist’s status as a human being with a unique iden…

> she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works

Doesn't this just mean that her future former customers will add "in the style of [her name]" to their prompts?

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by krisoft »

cocokechun wrote: post #9
akozak wrote: post #8

I had this exact idea, so glad it exists :) Adding model provenance would be a good idea so you can support multiple. I was wondering if DALLE 2 embeds any metadata in the images but haven't had a chance to investigate. I also think you should consider adding the option to clarify copyright status ... in particular, allow users to dedicate the image to the public domain via CC0 ( https://creativecommons.org/share-you…

Thanks for your thoughtful comment, akozak! Great idea to add model provenance. I'm not sure if Dalle-2 embeds any metadata, but openAI also has this CLIP model https://openai.com/blog/clip/ that lets you get embeddings. So we will be using this for our search functionality. It works amazingly well. Stay tuned for the search functionality. It is super powerful for prompt engineering. Thanks for pointing out the copyr…

> I'm not sure if Dalle-2 embeds any metadata, but openAI also has this CLIP model https://openai.com/blog/clip/ that lets you get embeddings.

Hah! Same word, two totally different meaning.

Metadata embedding: store extra information in non-visible fields in the file. For example some phones save the gps location where the picture was made in the image.

CLIP embedding: a vector which describes the semantic content of an image. It is the output of an AI model which maps the image into a semantic space (aka embeds the image in said space.) This vectorial description then typically can be used for image content classification or textual label generation.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by hackernewds »

nbzso wrote: post #14

Is there someone in the illustrator community who is not excited about this meaningful technology? So cool. You don't have a job anymore. As a start, you will get less money. Why I have to pay you when GPT 3 can generate prompts for DALL-E? Send your congratulations to the geniuses which in search of validation and budget optimization are bringing this revolution ahead. This thing proved for me that the UI design and…

You have this flippant perspective since you're comparing to human generated art from a decade ago. Humans have already commoditized human.

Top rate human generated art looks something like so: https://youtu.be/iKBs9l8jS6Q

which the AI generated models will lag for a while still.

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by hackernewds »

cocokechun wrote: post #25
nbzso wrote: post #14

Is there someone in the illustrator community who is not excited about this meaningful technology? So cool. You don't have a job anymore. As a start, you will get less money. Why I have to pay you when GPT 3 can generate prompts for DALL-E? Send your congratulations to the geniuses which in search of validation and budget optimization are bringing this revolution ahead. This thing proved for me that the UI design and…

Totally hear your concerns! There's this article "I Went Viral in the Bad Way" from a write from The Atlantic - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/62fc502abcb... . He got criticized so hard for using an AI-generated in his newsletter instead of paying an artist to do the work. People's concerns are valid and real. Yet, we can also imagine a future that "lower-level" artistic work can be achieved by AI,…

When cars were invented, there were concerns of accidents, pollution, noise and even the cost of good horsesmanship rising. And yet here we are..

Re: OpenArt: “Pinterest” for Dalle-2 images and prompts

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Post by tkgally »

avian wrote: post #56
tkgally wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists I agree that AI engines like DALL-E seem like a threat to many commercial artists, especially those whose name and personality are not closely associated with their works. Magazine illustrators are one example. For some artists, though, the artist’s status as a human being with a unique iden…

> she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works Doesn't this just mean that her future former customers will add "in the style of [her name]" to their prompts?

Possibly in the future, but not yet.

I just tried several DALL-E prompts with “in the style of [my daughter’s name],” but the results looked nothing like her work. Maybe OpenAI hasn’t crawled her website [1] yet.

Also, her commercial work usually includes lettering in English (and sometimes in Japanese), and DALL-E is not able to produce words or sentences yet.

[1] https://www.saragally.com/

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