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Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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On the one hand we have a legend with impressive track record that is trying to bring to light serious issues at a large company and he has not much to gain but a lot to lose by making false accusations. On the other hand we have the Twitter CEO who does not have any comparable track record and has all to gain by trying to deflect and a lot to lose by admiting that the company under him has serious issues. He does ha…

Twitter locks accounts for verification and then turns around and sells the phone number used to verify the account to advertisers. This kind of behavior can only happen in thoroughly rotten companies.

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Absolutely zero reason to say "who was terminated for ineffective leadership and poor performance". That context is not at all relevant to this matter and comes off as an attempt to distract from the subject in matter. And it doesn't bode well for employees to see their CEO mud slinging at former employees like that. You could be next! Besides, surely they know such messages eventually reach the public eye and give p…

From what I'm hearing, those who can leave Twitter are leaving twitter.

What do you mean "those who can"? Everyone works there because they want to, no other reasons. If you work at Twitter and don't want to anymore, it's trivial to leave, and you won't struggle to find a new position elsewhere. It's not like Facebook where your work history is already a bit tarnished by not having left it already.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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From what I'm hearing, those who can leave Twitter are leaving twitter.

What do you mean "those who can"? Everyone works there because they want to, no other reasons. If you work at Twitter and don't want to anymore, it's trivial to leave, and you won't struggle to find a new position elsewhere. It's not like Facebook where your work history is already a bit tarnished by not having left it already.

Not everyone is in a position to avail themselves of a job search immediately. But those who can, seem to be doing so.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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I thought the Musk / Twitter deal was DOA a long time ago.

It’s going to trial this fall. Twitter is going to ask courts to enforce the agreement, making Musk buy them. My guess is he’s blustering to shore up his negotiating position, and will have to make Twitter whole in the range of $10b. Or he believes his own tweets, will go to trial, and be forced to make the purchase. Like everyone, I’m bad at predicting the future.

He won't be forced to make the purchase because the court will determine that will cause more harm to Tesla shareholders than benefit to Twitter shareholders. The litigation will probably take about 10 years though. That's according to Andrew Torez from the Opening Arguments podcast.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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post #52
post #16

On the one hand we have a legend with impressive track record that is trying to bring to light serious issues at a large company and he has not much to gain but a lot to lose by making false accusations. On the other hand we have the Twitter CEO who does not have any comparable track record and has all to gain by trying to deflect and a lot to lose by admiting that the company under him has serious issues. He does ha…

Twitter locks accounts for verification and then turns around and sells the phone number used to verify the account to advertisers. This kind of behavior can only happen in thoroughly rotten companies.

What? I’ve worked in adtech for years and have seen a user’s phone number

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter locks accounts for verification and then turns around and sells the phone number used to verify the account to advertisers. This kind of behavior can only happen in thoroughly rotten companies.

What? I’ve worked in adtech for years and have seen a user’s phone number

Well, twitter did: https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/08/twitter-admits-it-used-two...

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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post #31

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From what I'm hearing, those who can leave Twitter are leaving twitter.

What do you mean "those who can"? Everyone works there because they want to, no other reasons. If you work at Twitter and don't want to anymore, it's trivial to leave, and you won't struggle to find a new position elsewhere. It's not like Facebook where your work history is already a bit tarnished by not having left it already.

There are a lot of absolutes here that I don't think jive with everyone's reality.

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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post #41
post #16

On the one hand we have a legend with impressive track record that is trying to bring to light serious issues at a large company and he has not much to gain but a lot to lose by making false accusations. On the other hand we have the Twitter CEO who does not have any comparable track record and has all to gain by trying to deflect and a lot to lose by admiting that the company under him has serious issues. He does ha…

Eh, hard to grok why you think Twitter is not evil like Facebook. Have we learned nothing about the public/private partnership between the social media companies and the surveillance state? Twitter management is littered with "former" government officials. For all we know, Mudge himself and his whistle are moves in an ongoing internecine fight over who calls the shots at a valuable tool of social control. We were rec…

I believe he didn't say they weren't evil like Facebook, just that they weren't as evil as Facebook.

That "as" is important nuance.

Personally I think that's fair when looking at Facebook's history[1].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

Re: Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal on whistleblower story

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s going to trial this fall. Twitter is going to ask courts to enforce the agreement, making Musk buy them. My guess is he’s blustering to shore up his negotiating position, and will have to make Twitter whole in the range of $10b. Or he believes his own tweets, will go to trial, and be forced to make the purchase. Like everyone, I’m bad at predicting the future.

He won't be forced to make the purchase because the court will determine that will cause more harm to Tesla shareholders than benefit to Twitter shareholders. The litigation will probably take about 10 years though. That's according to Andrew Torez from the Opening Arguments podcast.

> the court will determine that will cause more harm to Tesla shareholders than benefit to Twitter shareholders

How does that work with a shareholder vote scheduled before the trial?

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