It just makes me feel very happy that I use neovim. OSS used in all dev tools is the only way around this problem. Not that I have full OSS in my whole pipeline; I still use GitHub (though I am seriously considering a move to sr.ht).
VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
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Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#52Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#53It's Microsoft. It's what they do. It's been 20+ years. I'm not even old. I just don't understand how people haven't figured this out yet.
Okay but companies don’t just add telemetry because it’s a fun and exciting engineering challenge. They do so for legitimate engineering and business reasons. These solutions have privacy nuance they are not black and white/evil v good
Telemetry is malware. Always has been.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#54It's Microsoft. It's what they do. It's been 20+ years. I'm not even old. I just don't understand how people haven't figured this out yet.
I'm old enough to remember the browser wars and FUD against linux.
It is funny to see MS going from 'M$' to the gatekeeper of OpenSource.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#55How is PyCharm WSL2 support these days? WSL2 is the biggest reason I switched to VS Code 1 year ago.
Dunno about PyChsrm, but IntelliJ developers solve WSL2 issues in low-priority mode. I posted a few and followed a few others, resolution time is many months long.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
What better text editor?
There are much better IDEs. Check out the Jetbrains products. If you want an editor on Mac there is also Nova: https://nova.app The Rust and web related extensions work pretty well. I've been using that for a while. There are a few more around.
I use IntelliJ for $dayjob, and while I love it, it too submits telemetry. I do not know how pervasive it is, but the controls for it are not obvious in the general config window.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#57The TL;DR is Microsoft won't tell you what they collect and ignore settings that limit telemetry. If you use VSCode or its extensions you can't keep commercial secrets from those working at Microsoft unless you block network traffic from VSCode. This seems to be true even in the open source builds like VSCodium.
So I guess this page on their website is fiction? https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/telemetry
The article went into detail about it.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#58Found this while looking for a way to fully disable telemetry on vscode. After reading, this seems impossible, short of going down to DNS or network blocks of some kind: the "disable telemetry" setting doesn't; extensions have their own telemetry; MS consider the data sufficiently anonymous to be exempt from GDPR, even the vscodium maintainers say they found it impossible to block vs code's eager telemetrizing. I won…
I've been using vscodium for the most part but you cannot avoid the extensions themselves sending their own telemetry.
You absolutely can lock down what permissions your vscodium has, and what it can talk to.
Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#59The TL;DR is Microsoft won't tell you what they collect and ignore settings that limit telemetry. If you use VSCode or its extensions you can't keep commercial secrets from those working at Microsoft unless you block network traffic from VSCode. This seems to be true even in the open source builds like VSCodium.
So I guess this page on their website is fiction? https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/telemetry
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Re: VS Code – What's the deal with the telemetry?
#60Telemetry is godsend for developers, since it lets them track down actual product usage and issues. Telemetry is a privacy nightmare for users, since it sends data to the developers outside of an average user's control - data which is probably easily associated with an individual and kept for eons (disk space is cheap after all). I think telemetry collection is starting to become a professional ethics issue for devel…
What do you think about regulation like the GDPR?
I like them. I don't really understand how it would apply to telemetry - it's not something I've read into - and I don't think many other folks are looking into GDPR compliance with telemetry either.