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Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by Lucasoato »

antupis wrote: post #41
blippage wrote: post #27

“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

There has been plenty of those accusations like waterboarding his ex-wife and usually no smoke without a fire is pretty good thumb-rule about these things.

> usually no smoke without a fire is pretty good thumb-rule about these things

No, that's exactly the reason why trial by Twitter shouldn't be done, you don't know what actually happened.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by saiya-jin »

nl wrote: post #34
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Maybe possibly yes may very well be maybe possibly no, so basically we know 0 and should act accordingly by having our mouths shut about this till things are more clear.

Its way too easy to completely destroy a person these days for many different reasons, lets not add ourselves to mindless clueless outraged crowds.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by ctrlmeta »

istinetz wrote: post #35

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Exactly! HN is full of armchair judges, armchair scientists, armchair inventors, armchair researchers, you name it! More likely than not, their comments are going to be negative, belittling and demorsalizing to actual human beings involved.

This goes both ways. We don't know which party is guilty. It could be the women. It could be the defendant. We don't know. We don't have access to the case files. The jury is still out there.

Pretty sure this is not how the HN commenters behave with their colleagues in real life or they would be without jobs pretty soon. Pretty sure they would hate it if they were the target of such comments that they spew out here. But here on HN, it is just so easy to sit behind a keyboard and become an armchair expert in everything and attack others or their work or their inventions or their writings. Absolutely deplorable. I am very disappointed!

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Post by filoleg »

jongjong wrote: post #21
vasco wrote: post #17

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Who's "allowing" success, I'd like to make an appointment?

'They' are a bunch of algorithms and they don't take appointments. Just say a lot of positive things about the following topics on social media and the algorithms will start working for you: - Fiat monetary system - Banks - Big corporations - Big tech - Hedge funds - Billionaires - The importance of censorship to prevent misinformation - Executive bonuses - Surveillance - The need for more regulations - Big governmen…

I think if you start tweeting or publishing a lot of positive material on social media exclusively around those topics (save for the last few topics, because a lot of people actually are into those in 2022), you are far more likely to end up in a situation that is the exact opposite of "algorithms working for you".

Unless you amp it up to the point of irony/satire maybe, so that people would follow it for the comedic effect. But for that approach to actually work, the tin foil powerlevel gotta be a bit higher.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by jwarren »

pvaldes wrote: post #28
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Tl;DR He appears to have a track record of abusing women.

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"stole a kiss" wtf is this minimising bullshit? According to the article, he forced himself on someone, grabbing them by the throat. They feared for their life.

According to the article, he also literally had sex with his partner while she was under the influence, without her consent.

Please don't minimise victims trauma.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by ben_w »

filoleg wrote: post #45
wesleywt wrote: post #39

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Wanting to do good and talking about doing good in proportional amounts to the (a lot of) bad you are doing (as well as a solid way to gaslight everyone and drown out the negative sentiment) are not the same thing. Virtue signaling refers to the latter, not the former. No need to invent strawmen to "dunk on conservatives", conservative politicians give plenty of actual legitimate reasons to be disliked.

I first heard "virtue signalling" used to describe why people buy expensive Rolex watches even though they're worse at keeping time than a F-91W.

And of course, dismissing someone as "virtue signalling" is itself an act of virtue signalling in the other sense.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by watwut »

ctrlmeta wrote: post #43
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Can we stop with this unfounded speculation please? These are real human beings we are talking about with serious allegations. Let the court follow its due process and come to a decision. The jury is still out there. Innocent until proven guilty. All this armchair criticism and judgement on HN is turning out to be a very poor reading experience.

Claiming she is accusing him for "for sweet money" is as much unfounded accusation as the response to it. Actually even more if you look at the actual content of what posters wrote. While the response you reacted to contained mild claim, the original one was flat out vilification and direct accusation. Why is it that the former one is acceptable, but people who respond to it have to tip toes around?

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by keerthiko »

pvaldes wrote: post #28
dwaltrip wrote: post #6

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Tl;DR He appears to have a track record of abusing women.

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Be careful about crossing the line from "innocent until proven guilty" over into "victim-blaming" territory.

It takes an insane amount of courage to come forth publicly with the kinds of accusations these women are bringing, and a history of men victim blaming women is why so many abusers roam our midst with impunity. When I hear these kinds of accounts, I typically have more reasons to distrust the accused abuser who is usually the person wielding more power in the whole system.

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Post by webmobdev »

mrweasel wrote: post #42

I hate these stories, because we have no idea which side is true. The reckless drive is the only charge than can be proven, or at least have vitnesses. Criminal charges really should be kept out of the media until there’s enough evidence to jail the suspect. This is to protect both sides.

Except for politicians (and perhaps government officials)? Rich people?
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