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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by bckr »

switchbak wrote: post #28
csours wrote: post #14

Users of social media will learn how to deal with righteousness. Until we do, social media will suck big league. Social Media strongly encourages Hot Takes, because those get clicks. I found myself examining how I comment on reddit, and what people call "The Hivemind". You can't have nuanced discussions on social media, someone will infer what kind of asshole you exactly are, and that's the end of the discussion. Som…

So what you're saying is ...? :) I have often wondered if we can turn gamification on its head, so we can optimize for engaging discussion instead of outrage? There's a lot less money in that, so it'll get way less attention, but I wonder if it's doable? Of course you're still playing in a game theoretic landscape, so it'll be taken advantage of for sure, but it might still be better than this local minima we're in.…

> so we can optimize for engaging discussion instead of outrage

The way to do this might be to engage people, who are so interested, in email threads. But that doesn't drive dopamine cycles in the same way.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by id »

beebmam wrote: post #31
moreira wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it might just be that that’s not needed anymore. The social networks of the past were useful as a way to keep in touch with people. MySpace, early Facebook, and the countless others from back then. Now everyone’s online 24/7, and accessible on multiple services all at the same time, all the time. You don’t need social networks to keep in touch with anyone anymore, their original raison d'être is gone. What’s…

> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose. 100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wrong. I'm not looking for an agreeable experience here. I'm also here to learn about new tech.

Maybe, but you want to have your disagreements with the people that typically frequent HN about topics that are typically discussed on HN.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by jsemrau »

Yes social is changing. The initial value proposition of sites where we needed platforms to stay-up-to-date, meet new people, and communicate with each other can now be replicated easily.

Most social sites have stayed in the UI paradigm of 2003/2004. Just have a look at how much wasted space there is at LinkedIn.

Sites like Lunchclub, Clubhouse, and Finclout are sites where the tools are expanded through social networks (i.e, come for the tool stay for the community)

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by LesZedCB »

thenerdhead wrote: post #29

Y’all should read “Amusing ourselves to death” by Neil Postman if you’re interested in how mediums have changed over the years. As Huxley hinted, our soma is just technological narcotics. With each new medium of technology brings in a plethora of problems that cannot be reformed.

yes! thank you. huxley was right about a scary number of things...

this debate between will self and adam gopnik on 'brave new world' vs '1984' is really good if anybody has 1.5 hours to indulge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CcclqEiZw

just grabbed 'amusing ourselves to death' from libby, thanks for the recommendation!

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by dmarlow »

shevis wrote: post #42
beebmam wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose. 100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wrong. I'm not looking for an agreeable experience here. I'm also here to learn about new tech.

I 100% disagree with your idea that you, or anyone for that matter, is just here to disagree with other people’s ideas. Nobody disagrees with stuff just for the sake of disagreement. Who would do such a thing? Don’t bother answering that question though because you’d be wrong.

You're not wrong. But, you're not right either.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by [deleted] »

dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by matlin »

The approach at my company is to be group chat first. We think there is a distinction between social media (FB, Instragram, Twitter) and pure social networking. I think social networks that are unbounded and broadcast centric actually demonstrate anti-network effects where the more followers/friends you get the less value you get from your network unless of course you're trying to be an influencer. The ideal network always as a discrete audience anytime you share content or communicate which is exactly what a group chat or direct message provides. But unfortunately, Telegram, Whatsapp, iMessage, etc don't provide the rich interactions that made platforms like FB and Instagram so fun in the beginning.

Give us a shot if you want to try to a new form of social networking: https://www.aspen.cloud/

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by draugadrotten »

Silverback_VII wrote: post #19
jokoon wrote: post #13

I think that the only domain where social networks can be relevant is in the geoloc domain. Dating apps are quite an obvious example where it works very well, but dating is a very limited scope. So of course, the single problem of anything geoloc is safety and privacy, which is not the strong aspect of any social network right now. Tinder and others work hard to make their users safe, and it's difficult because users…

I think for dating/sex people are willing to leave their comfort zone and meet new people/take some risks. I not so sure about boardgames and walking... who wants to play a boardgame with a complete stranger ? but hey, why not? someone should try with the hope to become the new meta in social networking.

Wordfeud was/is very successful and it's a Scrabble type boardgame played with a stranger. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/why-wordfeud-worked-

Betapet is another example in the same vein. Local scandinavian community for playing Scrabble online against strangers, with many stories of people who even got married to each other. https://www.betapet.se/

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