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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sz4kerto »

iasay wrote: post #33
eklavya wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that the iPadOS is not designed to be used with a keyboard but windows is. Having a touchscreen on this laptop is a useful/useless add on and not the primary feature.

Actually iPadOS is very much designed to use a keyboard. A mouse too. Not a lot of people seem to realise that...

(I own iOS devices and a M1 MBP.)

Windows 11's window management is brilliant, nothing comes close out of the box (of course i3/sway/etc. can be customized to match it). Windows tablets as laptops are generally more usable than iPads as laptops due to stuff like multi-user support, filesystem access and much better window management. As tablets (media consumption + creative work like drawing) iPads are better.

This foldable device can be a nice primary machine while an iPad can't replace a laptop for most users. Macbooks are of course fine devices, but I think folding can become a nice feature when it matures.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by suction »

tigrezno wrote: post #23
iasay wrote: post #2

Expensive luxury land fill like all foldable displays currently are. This takes it to the extreme. I am not impressed. We should be building for sustainability at this stage of our existence and this is exactly the opposite of it. Plus it runs the worst touch based operating system on the market.

I suspect that if Apple released this, this site would be cheering for it.

Only because Apple's track record so far is a lot better than Asus' or other OEMs in terms of not adding novelty or gadget-y features to their pro products.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sz4kerto »

cr3ative wrote: post #3

I can't help but see folding screens as a limited-life product. Sure, laptops only last, usefully, about 6 years anyway, but it's such an obvious wear spot which would cripple the entire device. Thanks, but no thanks.

Early adopters (both on the user and the production side) are very much required to get to something usable eventually.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by suction »

snarfy wrote: post #49
monkey_monkey wrote: post #28

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I suspect that says more about your own innate biases than it says about the users of this site.

It might be a small minority but there are still quite a few Apple apologists on this site. That's fandom for you. Tech is notorious for it.

I bet you've heard the saying "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king" . That's what Apple is. You can be a "fan" of the one-eyed man without believing everything he makes or says is awesome.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by darkteflon »

byteflip wrote: post #22

I’m unlikely to buy a foldable laptop, but a foldable monitor while traveling sounds kinda nice. I’m working from a hotel right now, so I can easily imagine it. Folding flat would offer protection from scratches in a bag/backpack and take less space. Would be hard pressed to fit a 17” portable monitor in my bag, but if it folds in half that’s more tenable!

Slightly incidental, but after years of working out of hotel rooms, I’ve found that a 15.6” 4K portable display placed on a small tripod (Arca-Swiss mount) sitting directly above the main display of my 14” Macbook has been the perfect travel setup. It’s a dual-display setup, portable (similar area to the computer itself), similar desktop area and font resolution to the native panel, and prevents you from craning your neck.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by Kaibeezy »

iasay wrote: post #24
scrollaway wrote: post #15

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Isn’t the fold on current laptops a weak spot now? I’ve had laptops die to that. I get it’s tempting to say this will be worse but, will it? I don’t think it’s fair to say this immediately…

Only if you buy bottom end crap and beat it around. Lenovo / Apple hinges are pretty good. Foldable displays have several million times more parts being folded...

I just spent a pleasant hour fixing a friend's Lenovo hinge. Disassemble, cyanoacrylate adhesive, reduce hinge tension, wait/beer, reassemble.

Unimaginably poor design detail and QA on the tension setting. Many of this and other Yoga models junked on account of it. Easy enough repair though.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by suction »

eklavya wrote: post #30
iasay wrote: post #17

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I bought a keyboard for my iPad too. I'm not sure what your point is?

The point is that the iPadOS is not designed to be used with a keyboard but windows is. Having a touchscreen on this laptop is a useful/useless add on and not the primary feature.

You should catch up with the developments of iPad OS. It works very well with keyboards nowadays. Since a few years, actually.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by adrianN »

Tepix wrote: post #25
cr3ative wrote: post #3

I can't help but see folding screens as a limited-life product. Sure, laptops only last, usefully, about 6 years anyway, but it's such an obvious wear spot which would cripple the entire device. Thanks, but no thanks.

It's advertised as being stress tested with 30,000 folds. That should last quite a bit longer than 6 years for most people.

I've had a couple of laptops where the mechanical hinges became wonky after a couple of years. Intuitively they should be a lot sturdier than a folding screen, but perhaps intuition is misleading.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

Kaibeezy wrote: post #57
iasay wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you buy bottom end crap and beat it around. Lenovo / Apple hinges are pretty good. Foldable displays have several million times more parts being folded...

I just spent a pleasant hour fixing a friend's Lenovo hinge. Disassemble, cyanoacrylate adhesive, reduce hinge tension, wait/beer, reassemble. Unimaginably poor design detail and QA on the tension setting. Many of this and other Yoga models junked on account of it. Easy enough repair though.

The Yogas are ass end landfill built to a price point. You get what you pay for.
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