For our dating site, which of course has to deal with many prinses, Nigerian or otherwise, when we manually verified an account to be a scammer, we reject logins with a message stating that the IP address has been blocked. Scammers will usually go through all of their VPNs/bots in order to try to login, allowing our system to flag them all. We'll manually review all accounts that use (more than one of) those ip addre…
Sending spammers to password purgatory
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#52This reads a bit much like an ad. I sure have to scroll through a lot about Microsoft, Cloudflare, etc. before the funny password requirements I came for, at the verrrry end.
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#53Ok, I have no issue with tactics like these when they're wasting spammers' time. But sometimes it seems like real users get caught up in these honeypots for scammers and hackers. A lot of the crap real sites make people go through e.g. when they lose access to their account or login to a VPN or the site just "can't verify their identity" for some reason. Where you go through a bunch of hoops and captchas, only to hav…
steam censors passwords. if you have 88 in your password you will fail to register
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#54Troy, watch out you don't open yourself up for an attack from the bad guys: They'll start sending you solicitations with ReplyTo addresses of industry honeypots, and before you know it, you'll become a known spammer and your regular outgoing emails will be routed to recipient's spam folders or maybe even dropped entirely.
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#55I assume your starting password rules deliberately set the bar low to encourage PRs to improve it, since I can think of much more believable, infuriating, tedious ways to drag this out longer, keeping the user thinking they're always one step away from a valid password without being obviously silly. Believable, stupid requirements I've seen in the wild in the bad early days of complexity requirements. - your password…
I've seen a real site where the minimum password length was more than the maximum password length. Of course, if you know that you'll stop wasting your time. But if the error is just "your password is too short" or "your password is too long" it might take several tries to figure out it's impossible to satisfy the requirement.
But the worst I've seen was a registration form that truncates long passwords to the (hidden) maximum length of ~10 without telling you, so anyone choosing a safe password cannot login and won't know why.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For example, Steam has a system where if you enter too many invalid passwords, it will present you with a captcha which you can never actually solve. I call this "login gaslighting" and it's evil. Pioneered by the "do no evil" company.
ReCaptcha does a similar tactic but rather than unsolvable it's a stream of the most annoying captcha -- "select all of image until none are left". Fail one and you're back at the start. You do have the option to cycle captcha, but 9/10 times it'll be this one. Eventually you'll get locked out of captcha entirely. Anyone who has used Tor on Google has probably experienced this.
Just having a VPN + private mode is enough. That's how Google pushed me into becoming a happy DDG user.
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#57To be really evil, Troy should play with the password field- make it not a text or password field, but rather some sort of custom input field that doesn’t work with password managers and doesn’t allow paste.
Also maybe return errors sometimes that are themselves erroneous.
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#58For our dating site, which of course has to deal with many prinses, Nigerian or otherwise, when we manually verified an account to be a scammer, we reject logins with a message stating that the IP address has been blocked. Scammers will usually go through all of their VPNs/bots in order to try to login, allowing our system to flag them all. We'll manually review all accounts that use (more than one of) those ip addre…
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand the initial idea to block this known neo-Nazi short handle (8 for the letter H and 88 as HH standing for the 'Heil Hitler' salute in these circles). But how many people do I know born in 88. Or on the 8th of August? I understand that given the login is your public visible name on steam they just don't want clear neo-Nazi signifiers. Edit: Typo
88 is a lucky number in China and many Asian countries. Maybe time to claim “cultural insensivity” or something? Also, steam should never even see the password, they should only ever see the hash.
In order for password security to work, you have to send Steam your actual password, which they then check against the hash themselves. So at some point, Steam will have your password in plaintext.
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#60This seems kinda silly... Basically he sends his own spam back to the spammer. I expected something cleverer.