If someone can make it so it doesn't feel like I can no longer think or move any muscles or start sweating if I go more than about 3 hours without eating, then I'm on board! Also hunger pangs. Please no.
Intermittent fasting 2 days vs. 1 day per week
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#52> Protein pacing refers to 4–6 meals/day evenly-spaced, where each meal contains 25–40g of protein That's a lot of protein, comparable to the amount that bodybuilders consume. Does fasting increase protein requirements?
"High Carb" for 2200 Cals a day: Carbs:330g Protein:110g Fat:49g "Low Carb" for 2200 Cals a day : Carbs:138g Protein:248g Fat:73g Via: https://musclewiki.com/Macro_calculator I think most of the modern world is actually not getting enough protein. Every single person I talk to when I help coach them on macros we find out they are not getting near enough protein. (Myself Included)
I really wish their was more definitive studies on protein needs, based on exercise/lifestyle. All of the studies I've read tend to contradict with each other. During a phase of bodybuilding training I befriended a guy at the gym and he went on to train me.
He convinced me that I needed more protein than ever before. This guys was massive, and had success locally at competitions. So I took his advice and started to consume on average 350 grams of protein, he wanted 400 but I just couldn't do it.
I'm honestly not sure if it made a difference but I was at my most biggest, and strongest when I trained with him.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you elaborate a little about your regimen? Each time I attempted water fasting, the next day I was basically famished ( and needless to say, any progress made was lost ).
I would drink water for 5 days. It's not too difficult. The hardest part is the boredom. I'm quickly reminded how much of my life revolves around food. Farmers market, grocery shopping, happy hours, cooking dinner, work lunches, events, etc. You suddenly have all this free time. For me, I just play a lot of golf to take my mind off of it. If you want an easy version, look up fast mimicking diet by Dr. Longo. Prolon s…
This was my experience as well. The longest I've gone on a water/coffee fast is 7 days, and after the initial 24 hours of hunger subsides, the biggest factor was psychological. I learned that I often use food to relieve boredom, and it's honestly a struggle for me to find a replacement activity which is equally satisfying.
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#54> protein pacing diet for the remaining five/six days/week (Protein pacing refers to 4–6 meals/day evenly-spaced, where each meal contains 25–40g of protein) > During fasting days, participants fasting for one day/week were allowed to consume 400 Kcal/day, while participants fasting for two consecutive days were allowed 500 Kcal/day. During non-fasting days the dietary regimen provided 1350 and 1700 kcals/day for wom…
> Also something I was wondering, the repeated emphasis on short-term benefits has me wonder how the participants did after the trial. This right here is the first and most important reason to be skeptical of any study on weight loss. None of these things ever turn out to do anything useful on a time horizon that matters. If you want to know how to lose weight for a few weeks you don't need a peer reviewed journal, j…
> None of these things ever turn out to do anything useful on a time horizon that matters.
I found IF gave me a tool to help me control my appetite for the rest of my life.
Self control is best method for maintaining weight, as it's free and guaranteed to work if used.
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#55> protein pacing diet for the remaining five/six days/week (Protein pacing refers to 4–6 meals/day evenly-spaced, where each meal contains 25–40g of protein) > During fasting days, participants fasting for one day/week were allowed to consume 400 Kcal/day, while participants fasting for two consecutive days were allowed 500 Kcal/day. During non-fasting days the dietary regimen provided 1350 and 1700 kcals/day for wom…
1700 kcal a day for male is already pretty high calorie deficit even without any physical activity
Is it that far off? I had a medical last week and was told my resting metabolic rate was around 1750 kcal.
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#56Interestingly fasting which induces ketosis, has been shown to reduce cyst growth in rats with Polycistic Kidney Disease (PKD). A human trial is ongoing.
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#57Why is it called fasting when you’re allowed to eat 500 kcal ? I would’ve assumed it meant 0 cal
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#58If someone can make it so it doesn't feel like I can no longer think or move any muscles or start sweating if I go more than about 3 hours without eating, then I'm on board! Also hunger pangs. Please no.
You are describing hypoglycemia. Are you often thirsty, tired, hangry? Pee a lot at night?
If so, it might be a good idea to go and check your blood sugar.
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#59As someone that intermittently fasts everyday, I don’t think weight loss has anything to do with the actual fasting, I think it just helps you control when you eat and helps you meet a caloric deficit. I do enjoy the clarity of mind that I feel when I don’t eat for 16-18 hours though.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also something I was wondering, the repeated emphasis on short-term benefits has me wonder how the participants did after the trial. This right here is the first and most important reason to be skeptical of any study on weight loss. None of these things ever turn out to do anything useful on a time horizon that matters. If you want to know how to lose weight for a few weeks you don't need a peer reviewed journal, j…
> None of these things ever turn out to do anything useful on a time horizon that matters. I found IF gave me a tool to help me control my appetite for the rest of my life. Self control is best method for maintaining weight, as it's free and guaranteed to work if used.
I agree, I'm going on 50 and working hard on a beach body.
Traditional wisdom says that's nearly impossible at my age without "supplements" like "vitamin T".
I've found that IF is the real key for me.
I do one meal per day, and I can see all my nutrients laid out in front of me.
Aside from the other purported benefits of IF, this level of control I think is the main benefit to me.
I think that a lot of people don't realize how disconnected the feeling of hunger is from your actual (very minimal) caloric requirements.
Hunger is mostly a trained response, a production of ghrelin that's mostly a pavlovian response coupled with incredibly complex gut and psychological factors.
The hunger response can be trained away in about a week. I generally don't start getting hungry until around 6pm, when I've trained my body that it's dinner time.
Snacking, IMHO, is the single biggest weight loss killer.