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Re: ISO Warning Signs

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> W055 — sewage effluent outfall

Effluent, nice word. I don't think I've seen it before.

I'm a bit surprised my old favorite "don't stick your hand in the lawn mower blades" symbol isn't on this list. One of those warnings that really shouldn't be necessary, but obviously is.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Some of these pictograms remind me of the old 2003 (?) era ready.gov terrorism awareness pictograms[1]. M055—To induce a temper-tantrum in the kid, take away the box of cookies they've half eaten. W041—Shower every day or you'll be a loner surrounded by a swarm of flies.[2] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20040902165319/https://smithplan... (note: not the original site and I'm not sure where the meme originated from,…

I think the pinnacle of keep the hell out signs is this custom sign warning against cave diving: https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6120/6340400769_0be3304d64_b.j...

1) Skeletons of divers and a personification of death. The skeleton with a sickle thing might not be culturally universal, but the message is probably clear enough.

2) It gives clear rational justifications for itself, for the rebellious who might otherwise question a command given without justification.

3) It's a custom sign. Sometimes it seems warning signs are slapped on things out of an overabundance of caution because somebody has a stack of signs and nowhere else to put them. Not this sign. Somebody went out of their way to have this sign custom made, so it must be serious.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you suggest? I think main considerations are cost, ability to keep clean and durability.

There are some ways to make concrete anti-slip: https://theconstructor.org/practical-guide/how-to-make-a-con... Cheap, can pressure wash, if you make the appropriate grooving to allow thermal expansion it will last, but is easy to repair anyway. Can dye with any color you want too. If you want an environmental-friendly alternative, you can do the same with clay mixed with some binder.

Pressure washing indoors would probably make a big mess of a grocery store though. Grocery store floors are chosen to be flat and impermeable to make spills easy to clean, but flat and impermeable tends to mean slippery when wet.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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Some of these pictograms remind me of the old 2003 (?) era ready.gov terrorism awareness pictograms[1]. M055—To induce a temper-tantrum in the kid, take away the box of cookies they've half eaten. W041—Shower every day or you'll be a loner surrounded by a swarm of flies.[2] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20040902165319/https://smithplan... (note: not the original site and I'm not sure where the meme originated from,…

I think the pinnacle of keep the hell out signs is this custom sign warning against cave diving: https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6120/6340400769_0be3304d64_b.j... 1) Skeletons of divers and a personification of death. The skeleton with a sickle thing might not be culturally universal, but the message is probably clear enough. 2) It gives clear rational justifications for itself, for the rebellious who might otherwise q…

I too think it is good sign for the reasons you describe. However at least with cave diving the hazards only present themselves after someone has undergone training and gained experience which would make abundantly clear what type of hazards exist.

I think one of the worst types of hazards and one of the hardest to signpost is presented by low head dams. Signs are absolutely needed to make it abundantly clear it is not a half baked risk of serious injury or possible death. It's certain death. Signs need to describe and illustrate why it's a certain death because people coming across the hazard will typically have no idea what hazard lies in front of them. Signs need to describe why you can't save someone trapped in a recirculating current or you too will have a certain death. Use of generic signs would likely be downplayed because there there is a saturation of other swift water related (don't swim here/strong undercurrent/risk of flash flooding/etc) signs all over the place that mean people may be complacent.

For occupational hazards, I would suspect that crush hazards and asphyxiation hazards (confined spaces such as tanks and silos etc) are amongst the worst types of hazards. They're typically very hard hazards to control for (can't just screen/shield the hazard away from operators), it's easy for even well trained people to make mistakes, and hazards can frequently be hard to determine by operators.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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118 CHF (123 USD) to have warning signs... I'm glad that the UN didn't go with these, since interoperability of safety symbology should not be restricted to everyone but poor people I just wish the UN's efforts went further than just chemicals

> 118 CHF (123 USD) to have ... I see its time for the weekly reminder that one does not need to purchase standards directly from ISO. What you do is you go buy the "regionalised" (a.k.a. "EN-ISO") version which, for all intents and purposes, is exactly the same document. EN-ISO versions of ISO documents are available at far, far lower prices. See for example the online shop at the Estonian Centre for Standards and A…

Someone has caught on to this. Recent standards I was interested in (electrical stuff) were full price from EVS, or at least close enough that I didn't care.

Very annoying, I hate the motherfucking cartel bastards that are the IEC. (Tell you how I really feel?)

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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post #31

Slippery surface exists because of stupid architects / builders / customers ordering buildings. In Norway, there are a bunch of grocery (and other) stores that put those signs out when it's raining or snowing outside, i.e., the floor is likely wet. How about thinking upfront and choosing a non-slippery floor material, even if it doesn't look "fancy".

What do you suggest? I think main considerations are cost, ability to keep clean and durability.

Perhaps linoleum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linoleum) or some newer material with similar properties? I've used older showers with linoleum floor and it was not slippery at all.

Dunno, not an expert in this area, but even so, using polished tiles should be obviously a bad idea to anyone stopping to think about something more than looks.

Re: ISO Warning Signs

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> P031 – Do not alter the state of the switch Strikes me as the "Do not push" sign above the large red button.

I've seen those signs during construction works on the local tram system where they've switched off sections of the overhead line equipment – at least in those cases the switch handles are also protected with a padlock.
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