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Estimate how many slaves work for you based on your possessions and lifestyle.

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Re: Estimate how many slaves work for you based on your possessions and lifestyle.

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If we are buying products which were made, or have parts that were made, by people in terrible conditions, what would happen if we stopped buying those? Does it mean the people who use to make $1/day are now making $0/day which will lead to a harder life filled with crimes? Note: This is an honest question. I also come from a place where skilled-workers make around $4 or $5/day. I think in many cases, $4/day is bette…

The people who make $1/day stop making $1/day. There is crisis. The crisis is caused by the cessation of a domination-based dependence relationship. The crisis could cause government collapse and mass-death. Out of the ashes will arise a (necessarily) more self-sufficient community. The fact is that globalization fixes countries as "slave countries." It's very easy to control people by giving them a locally beneficia…

That worked really well for Somalia, innit?

I mean, look at all the creative endeavours the good people of Somalia ventured upon release from the hands of the Evil Government and Lobbies.

You are a perfect example of a person that would pave his road to hell with good intentions. All due to failure to see humans as we really are, and our time and again honoured tradition of refusing to do what "should" be done.

Re: Estimate how many slaves work for you based on your possessions and lifestyle.

#52
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but my view is that I was not asked to be born under these circumstances (over population, unequality of wealth, unfairness, etc). I never was in charge of dictating the type of world I wanted to live in. Therefore, why do I have the burden to do something about unfairness in this world? It's like saying to a developer "Go fix this bug RIGHT NOW!", and then when he/she asks for…

This way of thinking doesn't make sense. No one is claiming that you're responsible as in you need to fix this. We're claiming that you're responsible in the sense that you're part of the cause (or, in the language of Nagarjuna the "dominant condition" - http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/307/nagarlec.htm ) of the exploitation of people in third world countries. There are many other conditions besides you, of course.…

Of course I understnd my position relative to others, I think about it constantly. People naturally are competitors in this world. One person having a mate means one less mate for you, and less evolutionary success.

Re: Estimate how many slaves work for you based on your possessions and lifestyle.

#53
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who make $1/day stop making $1/day. There is crisis. The crisis is caused by the cessation of a domination-based dependence relationship. The crisis could cause government collapse and mass-death. Out of the ashes will arise a (necessarily) more self-sufficient community. The fact is that globalization fixes countries as "slave countries." It's very easy to control people by giving them a locally beneficia…

That worked really well for Somalia, innit? I mean, look at all the creative endeavours the good people of Somalia ventured upon release from the hands of the Evil Government and Lobbies. You are a perfect example of a person that would pave his road to hell with good intentions. All due to failure to see humans as we really are, and our time and again honoured tradition of refusing to do what "should" be done.

I don't know what you're referring to w/r/t Somalia. Fill me in on your version of the events.

Re: Estimate how many slaves work for you based on your possessions and lifestyle.

#54
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who make $1/day stop making $1/day. There is crisis. The crisis is caused by the cessation of a domination-based dependence relationship. The crisis could cause government collapse and mass-death. Out of the ashes will arise a (necessarily) more self-sufficient community. The fact is that globalization fixes countries as "slave countries." It's very easy to control people by giving them a locally beneficia…

That worked really well for Somalia, innit? I mean, look at all the creative endeavours the good people of Somalia ventured upon release from the hands of the Evil Government and Lobbies. You are a perfect example of a person that would pave his road to hell with good intentions. All due to failure to see humans as we really are, and our time and again honoured tradition of refusing to do what "should" be done.

Sorry, actually, I don't feed trolls.
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