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Plenty of countries that were not Germany predicted this. This was not some unique insight on his part.
Looming natural gas shortages has the EU scrambling for solutions
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Re: Looming natural gas shortages has the EU scrambling for solutions
#52Errr... How about turn on those Nuclear plants?
Natural gas cannot be replaced by nuclear energy (or any other source of electricity) for many applications, at least not in the short term. For example here in Germany, many homes use gas boilers (heaters) for heating space and water. You would need to rebuild a lot of infrastructure to use electricity (which Germany plans to do, but obviously this will take years if not decades).
> Natural gas cannot be replaced by nuclear energy (or any other source of electricity) for many applications, at least not in the short term.
Yeah, turns out that the folks running things put on a hell of a campaign to keep nuclear from being researched, and keep fossil fuel profits rolling in.
This is the world we live in. It can take _months_ to switch if we organize ourselves properly, but good luck.
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#53Covid shut down most LNG production in north america, good opportunity to get back to fracking and ruining the environment in US and Canada for the right price, theh can use tanker ships not just pipes unless they simply can't move that volume with ships.
there is no lng supply possible for Europe. you can frack as much as you want and ship as much as you want. the next 4 quarters will decide about the downfall of Europe (and ultimately the US).
"downfall of Europe"
Go look at some photos of Europe immediately post WWII. Especially Poland and Germany.
If we survived that and rose again from literal ashes, we won't be done in by one winter without Russian gas. This continent withstood a lot worse than a limited period of expensive heating.
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#54The whole Ukraine/Russia conflict underscores how poor the strategic position of Europe and the US is with respect to Europe. We’ve been phoning it in since the Clinton era and assuming that “norms” and oligarchs would keep Russia at bay. End of the day they got tanks, nukes and are learning what they can get away with.
No, most europe and the us told germany it relies too much on a single source of energy. Schroeder, Merkel, both were in bed with russia’s oil and gas tsars. Nord Stream’s ceo is a former stasi officer, ursula is corrupt and many many alternative pipelines have been pushed back in favour of we know who. Please dont mix everyone else in. As you can see some german commenters even admit to germany wanting to push for eu wide de nuclearisation. Some even go as far as saying germany shouldnt get involved in east europe - despite it making copious amounts of profits from the region, with many policies actually preventing development there in favour of germany. The eu needs reform so that it works nicely for all members. It can be done but germany needs to take a welcome step back and to stop sanctioning allies each time they have dissenting opinions. Germany’s economy was subsidised by dirty energy and the policies of the eu it controls have done it favour too much and too long.
Re: Looming natural gas shortages has the EU scrambling for solutions
#55To get some perspective why this is such a hotly debated topic - just got my heating bill for the last year - just a small 2 person flat in a small town - most flats in Germany are heated by gas one way or another - 700€/year with 5.2ct/kWh for 2021 - current market is more like 15ct/kWh and will probably rise. With the rise in rent prices in the last years this could push quite a bit of poor / lower middle class peo…
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Natural gas cannot be replaced by nuclear energy (or any other source of electricity) for many applications, at least not in the short term. For example here in Germany, many homes use gas boilers (heaters) for heating space and water. You would need to rebuild a lot of infrastructure to use electricity (which Germany plans to do, but obviously this will take years if not decades).
Is there a difference between the kind of gas used in power plants and the kind for residential use? If not, couldn't nuclear plants reduce the need for gas in power plants, allowing that gas to go to heating homes instead?
There is currently almost no gas used for electricity generation in Europe (much too expensive). Even under normal conditions, heating and industry consume an order of magnitude more gas than electricity generation.
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> Solution #2. Forget about the climate for the next 5 years, turn on all coal, nuclear powerplants. Nuclear power is perfectly compatible with climate goals.
I am with ya there. But the Germans populace have been thoroughly brain-washed that nuclear is bad. So, better just to tell them : "its bad, but needed because we are in a war."
It is absurd that we're having "energy crisis" when we have the technological know-how to build nuclear energy, literally a solved problem.
Re: Looming natural gas shortages has the EU scrambling for solutions
#58Errr... How about turn on those Nuclear plants?
Natural gas cannot be replaced by nuclear energy (or any other source of electricity) for many applications, at least not in the short term. For example here in Germany, many homes use gas boilers (heaters) for heating space and water. You would need to rebuild a lot of infrastructure to use electricity (which Germany plans to do, but obviously this will take years if not decades).
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#59There are solutions, just unpopular and require a political class that is not fickle and weak. Solution #1. Capitulate to Putin and treat Russia as a regional power that can gobble and punish its neighbors when they stray too far. Solution #2. Forget about the climate for the next 5 years, turn on all coal, nuclear powerplants. Solution #3. Put the Euro printer in overdrive and pay whatever price needed for the littl…
Solution #1 - we already tried that, we gave Putin Crimea in 2014, everything was chill for 7-8 years and now we have this mess.
If we give him Donetsk and Luhansk, he'll just be back for more + Moldova in 5-6 years.
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NordStream was widely criticised from the very beginning, to the point many suspect some kind of corruption being involved in its approval.