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New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

LanceH wrote: post #36
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I predict that the politicians will, after much grumbling by the public, have the speed limits raised to reflect the speeds people actually want to drive. And then we'll have to endure a bunch of breathless hand wringing and concern feigning about how "it will be a bloodbath" from the usual suspects.

You have too much faith. My predicted path is they can get the cars to report on themselves or each other and automate the fines.

That would represent a transfer of power away from police and courts.

Do the politicians really want to fight that fight for a few bucks when they can just tax us?

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by samatman »

Raed667 wrote: post #3

There is absolutely no reason any road car should be able to (consistently) drive faster than ~150km/h

Why not? There are roads without speed limits, both public and private, and drivers capable of driving safely above that speed. Driving really fast doesn't happen to be my hobby, but I see the appeal.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by joebob42 »

judge2020 wrote: post #46
recursive wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if new cars were incapable of exceeding the limit, that wouldn't be true for long.

There are still tons of cars from the 90's and early 2000's on the road (in particular the '01 Camry), it'll be at least 20-30 years and anyone with a new car being limited is just going to be harassed for driving way too slow relative to traffic.

And even once this is over, I think it's pretty often the speed limits and not the people driving over them that are in the wrong. I don't think slowing everyone down is a useful goal unless we adjust the limits up first.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by Duralias »

amf12 wrote: post #29
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name two

Passing a slow car (driving below the limit) on two lane undivided highway. You could pass them at the speed limit, but its safer to just speed up while passing the car and then reduce your speed when you are back in your lane. I had to do this multiple times passing RVs while on a road trip this weekend.

Ok, but legally you aren't allowed to do that.

Also why is it safer?

To me a predictable speed would be safer.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by legostormtroopr »

This is not a bad idea - but speed limits have not changed to reflect changing cars.

Speed limits are stuck at 100km in Australia and have been for decades - despite cars introducing anti-lock breaking, predictive breaking, anti-rollover technology, lane assist and so on.

Cars are now much much safer, and yet speed limits outside of cities have not changed to reflect this. If the government wants to introduce speed limiters on all cars, they also need to re-examine speed limits - especially outside of urban areas.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by SoftTalker »

LanceH wrote: post #36
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I predict that the politicians will, after much grumbling by the public, have the speed limits raised to reflect the speeds people actually want to drive. And then we'll have to endure a bunch of breathless hand wringing and concern feigning about how "it will be a bloodbath" from the usual suspects.

You have too much faith. My predicted path is they can get the cars to report on themselves or each other and automate the fines.

That's already happening with insurance. Some insurers are offering "safe driving discounts" if you install their app, which tracks your speed. If you exceed a speed limit, you lose the discount for that month. It's your problem to remember to disable it if someone else is driving.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by bufferoverflow »

noduerme wrote: post #22

I object to driving any car with a built-in GPS or an internet connection, on basic privacy grounds. It amazes me how many advocacy groups and organizations [edit: and bicycle fans right here on HN!] are willing to completely demolish essential rights like privacy and freedom of movement, in the name of preventing speeding accidents.

GPS is not a tracking technology. It's read-only. It allows you to determine your coordinates by listening to satellites. GPS receivers don't send your location.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by ohazi »

seattle_spring wrote: post #23
x3n0ph3n3 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Negative acceleration is still acceleration.

Refer to the brake as "the accelerator" and see how that goes for you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/physicsmemes/comments/nzeh4h/you_ge...

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Post by post_break »

joebob42 wrote: post #49

I've been worried about something like this ever since maps first started showing the speed limit on the road I was on. It feels like an inevitability. For whatever reason this feels like an especially significant step on the path towards increasingly excessive control over individuals and it makes me very sad that it's finally happening.

Newer cars like my accord use a camera that looks for speed limit signs. What's funny is it's not perfect and sometimes will read a random sign and tell me the speed limit is like 100mph on a 35mph road.
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