We can't check the app permissions on Google Play anymore

Post by tintor » Tue, Jul 05, 2022, 5:23 AM UTC

dheera wrote: post #47

lovelearning wrote: post #28

The dynamic permissions are not a replacement. Some users would never even install apps that asked for too many static permissions on the Play page. But now, if an app seems to meet their needs and they aren't sure, some of them will go ahead and install it just to try it out. How much can one run hurt after all? Due to unresolved questions or sunk cost dilemmas, they may even grant dynamic permissions. How much can…

What they really need to do is to simulate data for permissions that are rejected. For example, if I reject location permissions, then play back a random GPS trail in a randomly selected city on the planet, complete with simulated error and drift. If I reject Wi-Fi scanning, then show a constantly changing set of fake access points. If I reject camera, then play back some cartoons or deepfaked video as a camera devic…

Post by jstanley » Tue, Jul 05, 2022, 5:24 AM UTC

dheera wrote: post #47

lovelearning wrote: post #28

The dynamic permissions are not a replacement. Some users would never even install apps that asked for too many static permissions on the Play page. But now, if an app seems to meet their needs and they aren't sure, some of them will go ahead and install it just to try it out. How much can one run hurt after all? Due to unresolved questions or sunk cost dilemmas, they may even grant dynamic permissions. How much can…

What they really need to do is to simulate data for permissions that are rejected. For example, if I reject location permissions, then play back a random GPS trail in a randomly selected city on the planet, complete with simulated error and drift. If I reject Wi-Fi scanning, then show a constantly changing set of fake access points. If I reject camera, then play back some cartoons or deepfaked video as a camera devic…

Post by unlaxedneurotic » Tue, Jul 05, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

happyopossum wrote: post #35

manchmalscott wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not presented in the App Store; both android and iOS still have a permission system, but you need to download the app before you can see what permissions the app has asked for.

In iOS you see what permissions are requested when the app needs them and, you know, requests them from you with a dialog. That seems good enough?

Post by josephg » Tue, Jul 05, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

russdill wrote: post #49

axelthegerman wrote: post #40

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Agreed for optional permissions, but not sure what you'd expect a browser to do that doesn't have internet access or a camera app that is not allowed to access the camera

In the example of Kakao, it lists the contacts permission as optional and the app will install and open without it. But it won't let you past a nag screen without it first verifying that you have given it access to your contacts. Really anything involving personal data should be up to the user. Especially something like your contacts.

Post by magnio » Tue, Jul 05, 2022, 5:28 AM UTC

happyopossum wrote: post #35

manchmalscott wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not presented in the App Store; both android and iOS still have a permission system, but you need to download the app before you can see what permissions the app has asked for.

In iOS you see what permissions are requested when the app needs them and, you know, requests them from you with a dialog. That seems good enough?