I was wondering why all of a sudden the default github branch was “main”
I will admit that I had no idea that "slave" was actually a tech term until I heard about the blacklist controversy. I will admit the term "slave file" is rather...uncomfy.
Blacklist is not a racist word
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Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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You're wrong. Do you know the origin of political correctness? Stalin and Nazis loved that. "Blacklist is racist" is indeed a dangerous overstatement.
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> regardless of what ideology you're for or against
This is totally untrue and everybody knows that.
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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Please don't use "crusade" as a negative. The crusades were difficult fights for liberation of various European countries against Muslim colonialism, which had already stolen much of their land and enslaved their people [1,2]. Using them as a negative synonym is very offensive and problematic. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Musl... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
Of course the word crusade has a negative connotation. The trails of blood and destruction they left are well known and documented. As per your links, the enslavement that happened were due to war, so the same as what the Europeans did.
> The trails of blood and destruction they left are well known and documented.
You're saying Europe should not have retaliated for all the land and people that were stolen? They were at war, under attack for centuries, but if they counter-attack, well that's the worst thing ever, still remembered almost a thousand years later, while the Muslim attacks they were responding to go largely unmentioned. It's bizarre.
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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> What if nazis start saying that they love "mainline" branch because it's meinline and that reminds them of Adolf. Ok lets remove mainline. You see, the thing about culture is that it's rapidly evolving and not necessarily rational (which is perfectly fine). If the word "mainline" would become associated with nazis commonly enough, I'd definitely want to avoid its usage despite of there being nothing wrong it, just…
Why is a rapidly evolving, irrational culture perfectly fine? It sounds quite dangerous and self destructive to me. If you're going to live on eggshells being scared of what a fringe minority decides on a whim, then I don't know what to say.
Because that's what culture is and has always been and everything is fine. Nobody is living on eggshells just because words can change meanings and associations over time. To a well adjusted person, it's a non-issue.
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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> regardless of what ideology you're for or against This is totally untrue and everybody knows that.
If you can find an example of an account abusing HN the way you were, which we haven't banned, I'd like to know about it.
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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So what I didn't know was the origin of the word "master" in relation to housing. "The phrase "master bedroom" first appeared in the 1926 Sears catalog, according to the real estate blog Trelora. It was a feature of a $4,398 Dutch colonial home, the most expensive in the catalog, referring to a large second floor bedroom with a private bathroom." https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_971e3114fec2c583d17a32ac8c... 1926 wa…
That's all very interesting but I don't think it has anything to do with if the phrase "master" is racist. A quick search reveals the following English idioms: master master plan master of ceremonies master key master class master baker master of arts baggage master past master grand master zen master puppet master master of fine arts master of science master sergeant chess master old master master builder master bed…
A quick google search on the origin of the word master comes up with this (and in fact, I don't know why you didn't search this originally).
"Master comes from the Latin adverb magis (“more”). It first appeared in English over a thousand years ago, referring to people who had authority over others, whether as rulers, employers, teachers, or fathers."
I would imagine slaves and slave owners would be in that list as well.
I'm not saying that "master" is always racist, but in certain cases, it seems pretty clear -- as in the Master/Slave J/K flip flop. The example given "master bathroom" surely seems like it could have racist connotations.
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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Of course the word crusade has a negative connotation. The trails of blood and destruction they left are well known and documented. As per your links, the enslavement that happened were due to war, so the same as what the Europeans did.
> The trails of blood and destruction they left are well known and documented. You're saying Europe should not have retaliated for all the land and people that were stolen? They were at war, under attack for centuries, but if they counter-attack, well that's the worst thing ever, still remembered almost a thousand years later, while the Muslim attacks they were responding to go largely unmentioned. It's bizarre.
What provoked the Muslim attacks, and how did the Muslims treat the local population compared to the chaos and destruction left by the Crusades? Islam has rules of engagement, which prohibits the atrocities committed by the Crusades and the Mongols
Re: Blacklist is not a racist word
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Why is a rapidly evolving, irrational culture perfectly fine? It sounds quite dangerous and self destructive to me. If you're going to live on eggshells being scared of what a fringe minority decides on a whim, then I don't know what to say.
Because that's what culture is and has always been and everything is fine. Nobody is living on eggshells just because words can change meanings and associations over time. To a well adjusted person, it's a non-issue.
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