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Re: App School Live

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Just in case you're wondering whether Urbit is worth looking into, let me save you the trouble: no. Just, no. Urbit is a cult. All of its artifacts are deliberately obfuscated in order to instill a sense of community into those who climb the learning curve. It has no actual technical merit whatsoever. Here is a clue: > We’re running a cohort class of App School to teach you how to terraform Mars. No, you are not goin…

Have you been documenting your findings? A sceptical followers perspective on Urbit would be interesting to read and probably something worth archiving.

These aren't "findings", they are my opinions.

Re: App School Live

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's not true. OO terminology is chosen to be informative and inclusive. It might not entirely succeed in this, but that is the goal. Urbit's terminology, indeed its entire design, is chosen to be obfuscatory and exclusive. It is designed to conceal the fact that underlying the entire enterprise is an extreme right-wing ideology. The mere existence of terms of art is not diagnostic of a cult. The design and mot…

Do you have a source on that? If I go and ask for help in a Hoon channel, the devs there are more than happy to explain to me what all of the terms mean, using the documentation of those terms .

> Do you have a source on that?

Which "that"? OO or Urbit? For OO, no, I don't. It just seems obvious to me that OO terminology was not chosen to be deliberately obfuscatory. For Urbit, it's my opinion based on interactions with Curtis ten years ago. Many of those interactions were via email, so I could probably grovel through my archives and find what he said that led me to form those opinions. But again, it just seems obvious to me that Urbit's terminology is deliberately obfuscated.

Re: App School Live

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Urbit docs and app dev has come an amazing long way in the last 10 years. You don't see many projects with the staying power of urbit, despite being constantly called a cult poo-poo'd every time it comes up on HN.

Feature not a bug. They day HN gives any positive feedback on it, I'll have to re-assess.

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