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Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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This is an extremely ironic comment

I don't understand, why is it ironic?

Because this person has made an irrevocable judgement on the way people performed because of their judgement based on how another person performed. For the very thing he was criticising them about: judging based on appearance of the situation the reality of it, he has done the same to them, but even worse, with explicit malice! I can't really imagine how someone could think they are the good guy in this situation

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#52

Not surprised. The hot style right now is "authenticity" and typical high status clothing is associated with just the opposite of that.

Yes, but authenticity as value signaling, not as a commitment to behave without unnecessary layers.

I lived in a meditation center for a year, and I saw some people there that claimed to be authentic, and worked to look like the stereotype. But they were actually hiding a desire for materialism and the failure to live up to it behind the apparent choice of rejecting it.

Irony can be pretty ironic.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#53

I can't bring myself to bring off brand trainers for some reason, I think I've been propagandised

Could be, but as someone who get lower body pains and injuries (ankles and knees mostly) and lower back fatigue relatively often (from exercising), I do prefer brands that are rooted in actually athletic use rather than purely design/looks. Maybe it's just placebo but I feel like they're going to be more comfortable and give me better posture/support.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#54

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

Except for sneakers, I can't think of a single category of clothing where it is common to have visible logos?

Pretty much any shirt or hoodie or jacket you’re going to find in common stores will have a brand logo on it. If there’s no logo, at least it sports some random gibberish (New Mexico Surf Club ‘86).

I’m also from camp „not your free advertising estate“, and it’s difficult to find plain or ad-free clothes at times. Unless you’re strictly into suits, that is.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#55
I like to wear nice clothes at work. I feel good in them and it is my way of being respectful to the workplace.

I probably carry this too far when traveling. I have very light weight traveling sport coats and slacks - all washable in a hotel room and lots of hidden pockets (TravelSmith is a favorite brand). Sometimes it pays off big: when my wife and I were traveling around Central America with a buddy of mine and his wife, my friend just packed tshirts, shorts, and sandals. Every time we walked into a restaurant to eat, his wife complemented me on looking so nice. This bugged my friend, and if we can’t irritate our friends, then what is the joy in life :-) Seriously though, it just feels respectful to be nicely dressed when entering restaurants and people’s homes when traveling.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#56
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The article's title is "Showing off your status and wealth makes you seem less co-operative", and the title here on HN is absolutely wrong. I like wearing flashy clothes myself, and I would even say it has proven advantageous to cooperation in my line of work, so I was curious about this article. However, nowhere is it stated that flashy clothes make people less likely to cooperate with you. They say wearing clothes…

According to the article, the study entailed using avatars with or without luxury logos branded on clothing.

Suits can be luxury goods, but the study didn't explore that. It's unclear at a glance if this was actually about status given the methods. There could be other reasons people don't favor corporate-branded clothing, considering that wealthy people don't just wear polos with big corporate logos on them. Maybe it telegraphs poor taste, or that boosting luxury companies makes it seem like you're trying too hard to show that you have money (I make a distinction between this and someone who plainly looks high-status owing to their choice of wear). The obvious thing to include would have been avatars with non-luxury brands, it's possible that would have repelled as well.

On the other hand, every piece of heavily-branded clothing could be considered "luxury" in its own way and the only difference is social class, demographics. In low-culture you'll see Crooks and Castles, Fox Racing, Adidas, etc

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#57

Counterpoint: Patagonia vests worn by many bay VCs and tech / finance bros - they seem to have no trouble making deals.

Except with Patagonia which made the decision to no longer supply these items as the recognized they were becoming a part of the uniform for finbros[0].

[0]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/midtown-uniform-patagonia-will-...

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#58
post #2

Any kind of self-promotion is unpleasant, except to other self-promoters. For them its competitive. And yes, this includes the virtue emojis on Twitter and GitHub.

I live in South Florida, a little bit above Miami, and work out of this little co-working space. A couple weeks ago, a new member joined, and after talking with him a bit, I learned that he had worked on the founding team for some very famous technology (don't want to name it publicly). So pretty impressive, but the guy is down to earth and humble about it, which I really respected. Some other people in the space (no…

I think the key to being happy as an introvert is not depending on the approval and adoration of others for your accomplishments. If you do, you're going to be bitter and toxic over not getting it when you feel you should.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

#60

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

Ironically: the gaudy heavily branded clothing of a brand's clothing line is usually the cheapest.

The understated stuff is usually much more expensive.

I think Vercace is the only brand I know of that's the opposite.

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