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Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by Andaith »

ggm wrote: post #10
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I follow an Australian hydroponic gardener and general tinkerer on YouTube named Hoocho and he has documented a bit of the mess the weather has caused lately. It’s extremely disheartening. One thing he noticed is that the water has pushed ants to find new places to live (including his growing enclosure, where they’ve made a home in his electrical box), and they’ve brought aphids to farm along with them. Obviously thi…

The supply chain logistics which let asparagus importers get stock from Peru in the off season are the same ones which means they can't just ring up on a whim and ask for some more, in the "on" season. Australian Quarantine and Customs Inspection service is pretty strong on vegitative matter, especially live vegitative matter: You need a LOT of paperwork, to be able to bring fresh produce into Australia. And this loc…

What's wild to me is that apparently there's only one place on this continent that grows lettuce. It seems like a bit of an all-your-eggs-in-one-basket thing to have one valley in QLD(I think) that does lettuce for the nation, and they have some bad weather and suddenly we're all sans-lettuce.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by CameronNemo »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #45
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #24

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> …also, you know California has kind of been America's wildfire capital recently, right? This year, so far, New Mexico has reluctantly claimed that particular throne.

Was it a Wild Fire or a Federal Fire? Wildfire season has not really kicked in yet, although it is fast approaching.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by c1sc0 »

losteric wrote: post #20
kurthr wrote: post #9

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I thought the 9 most terrifying words were, "I'm from the government and I’m here to help"? What do you expect the Feds to do about the weather?

> What do you expect the Feds to do about the weather? Intervene and rebalance the water markets, which are currently unsustainable based on bad decades-old science.

Geoengineering. I know that if they won’t do it someone will. Iron fertilization in particular looks cheap enough to try at the non-state level.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by bogomipz »

WoahNoun wrote: post #36
enraged_camel wrote: post #29

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Water markets are broken primarily because of water rights, some of which were allocated centuries ago via local and regional contracts. They are nearly impossible to untangle, and state governments are required by law to honor them.

Congress can use eminent domain to untangle them.

Can you walk me through how the Federal Government could use eminent domain to untangle the water rights? What exactly is the Government going to expropriate as part of eminent domain? There are seven states that depend on the water from the Colorado River.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #45
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> …also, you know California has kind of been America's wildfire capital recently, right? This year, so far, New Mexico has reluctantly claimed that particular throne.

True, New Mexico is "winning" this year. Hopefully the rest of the fire season won't be as dire anywhere, but...

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Post by narrator »

pram wrote: post #50

The situation in Lake Mead is horrific. I’ve been watching a YouTuber that has been filming various locations around the basin for the past couple months. It’s one thing to hear “the lake is doomed” and another to see it disappearing as the days go by: https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Oddly, California officials are trying to decide right now whether to save Lake Mead or the Salton Sea. One is a stinky polluted accidental lake and the other is the primary water source for Las Vegas. What the heck?

"He said the district will again seek binding guarantees from the federal and state government to help with the fast-drying Salton Sea before agreeing to reductions to preserve Lake Mead." https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sophies-choice-water-off...

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by erikpukinskis »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #49
WoahNoun wrote: post #34

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Senators don't make local policy.

that was a reply to the suggestion that "maybe" the area should elect senators who believe in climate change. we already have. it wasn't a suggestion that this is actually the answer.

They said representatives not senators.

There are state senators who are the relevant representatives here not federal ones.

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Post by 10u152 »

Andaith wrote: post #51
ggm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supply chain logistics which let asparagus importers get stock from Peru in the off season are the same ones which means they can't just ring up on a whim and ask for some more, in the "on" season. Australian Quarantine and Customs Inspection service is pretty strong on vegitative matter, especially live vegitative matter: You need a LOT of paperwork, to be able to bring fresh produce into Australia. And this loc…

What's wild to me is that apparently there's only one place on this continent that grows lettuce. It seems like a bit of an all-your-eggs-in-one-basket thing to have one valley in QLD(I think) that does lettuce for the nation, and they have some bad weather and suddenly we're all sans-lettuce.

Yes....and no.

Lettuce likes some pretty specific conditions. If there's one area that's perfectly suited to growing lettuce with the minimum resources (fertiliser/water etc) then grow it there. Better than trying to grow it in the desert or somewhere much too cold.

If Australians go without lettuce for a month or so nobody is going to die. Eat rocket, spinach and cabbage instead.

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Post by rootw0rm »

Andaith wrote: post #51
ggm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supply chain logistics which let asparagus importers get stock from Peru in the off season are the same ones which means they can't just ring up on a whim and ask for some more, in the "on" season. Australian Quarantine and Customs Inspection service is pretty strong on vegitative matter, especially live vegitative matter: You need a LOT of paperwork, to be able to bring fresh produce into Australia. And this loc…

What's wild to me is that apparently there's only one place on this continent that grows lettuce. It seems like a bit of an all-your-eggs-in-one-basket thing to have one valley in QLD(I think) that does lettuce for the nation, and they have some bad weather and suddenly we're all sans-lettuce.

Get some spinach, arugula, cabbage, or any other leafy green?
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