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2022 Cloud Report

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Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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How about ARM? Included in the report?

From the pdf of the report

>We chose not to test ARM instance types this year as CockroachDB still does not provide official binaries for that processor platform. Official support for ARM binaries is slated for our Fall release (22.2), so we expect to return to testing this processor platform next year.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top, I’m just happy we have a competitive CPU market now. I’ll include the M-series from Apple as well, despite being platform locked, because it also forces the other players to up their game. I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. The insane memory bandwidth of the M1 is what ke…

>As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top

I am not a fanboy, but a realistic dude.

AMD ruled the last years but Alder Lake overtook Vermeer on both performance and price/performance.

And that is with a process node difference, Intel using 10nm vs AMD using 7nm.

And the future looks like Intel will enhance the distance between its performance and AMD's.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top, I’m just happy we have a competitive CPU market now. I’ll include the M-series from Apple as well, despite being platform locked, because it also forces the other players to up their game. I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. The insane memory bandwidth of the M1 is what ke…

> I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. Current rumours suggest that's where AMD is heading, Zen 5 having multiple accelerators integrated and Zen 6 having HBM part of the package (on the datacenter variants): https://youtu.be/6yFn85I5PbY?t=1222

The memory in an M1 is not "on die" it is plain old DRAM that they buy from the Koreans and solder to the board just like Intel and AMD and everyone else. DRAM is made on a fundamentally different semiconductor process and there will never, ever be a CPU with on-die DRAM. DRAM that can be made on a CPU logic process is called eDRAM. A huge eDRAM is a few tens of megabytes, while a huge DRAM is gigabytes. The bit cell density of eDRAM is slightly better than SRAM and 1000x lower than DRAM.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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There is very little offering and honestly afaik they are not competing on performance except niche applications. It's not that easy to displace x86...

Graviton3 on AWS is better for most applications on a cost/performance basis, and in some cases also on straight latency. Honeycomb has some great blogs about it: https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/present-future-arm-aws-gravito...

I stand corrected ! Note that is on cost/performance, not raw performance yet. Impressive.

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Yes! How awesome is it that we've got companies like AMD, Intel, Nvidia, ARM, Apple + TSMC for M series, and others who are cranking out awesome products? Sometimes we get lost in the criticism of every little thing that these companies do and forget that honestly, they're all cranking out great products.

we need a fab competition as well. too many fabless like AMD, Apple...etc. deepened on TSMC

Intel is working on expanding their fab capacity and contracting it out like TSMC and Samsung.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! How awesome is it that we've got companies like AMD, Intel, Nvidia, ARM, Apple + TSMC for M series, and others who are cranking out awesome products? Sometimes we get lost in the criticism of every little thing that these companies do and forget that honestly, they're all cranking out great products.

Hopefully some serious competition and general normality will return to consumer discrete GPUs sometime soon, too.

GPU prices are already coming back to earth, thanks to both improved availability and the collapse of crypto mining.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

#59
post #18

Can we just go back to good old days and stop with animations to bring the content from all directions which is even slow enough I get blank screen for a few seconds as I scroll down which really reduces the readability.

It also ignores the "prefers-reduced-motion" CSS Media feature flag :(

Shouldn't the web browser be the one implementing css rules?

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. Current rumours suggest that's where AMD is heading, Zen 5 having multiple accelerators integrated and Zen 6 having HBM part of the package (on the datacenter variants): https://youtu.be/6yFn85I5PbY?t=1222

The memory in an M1 is not "on die" it is plain old DRAM that they buy from the Koreans and solder to the board just like Intel and AMD and everyone else. DRAM is made on a fundamentally different semiconductor process and there will never, ever be a CPU with on-die DRAM. DRAM that can be made on a CPU logic process is called eDRAM. A huge eDRAM is a few tens of megabytes, while a huge DRAM is gigabytes. The bit cell…

I think the person you are responding too used the wrong vocabulary. Apple mounts the SoC and DRAM together in a system-in-a-package design, which is pretty different from how thin & light x86 manufacturers solder DRAM chips to the mainboard. The proximity between the SoC and DRAM is part of what makes the M1s bandwidth possible.
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