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Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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My wife and I have allergies and are poor sleepers, as a result I religiously monitor air quality in several points in the home in order to manage the air. I find CO2 ppm over 1000 provides for headaches and poor sleep. Having a modern well sealed home means you rely a lot on an HRV to exchange the air, but sometimes you need to open the windows. After all the monitoring for years I can attest that the gas cooktop ha…

Are you putting in a fresh air ventilation system (ERV) in your new house?

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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It is extremely common, even default in the US in my experience, to not have vent fans not actually... vent. As a renter, I don't really get a choice in the matter. Opening a window significantly is also pretty unfeasible most of the year.

Do you also have a gas stove? I’ve lived in lots of places that have unvented blowers but none of them had gas. Would be against code in almost every city in America.

How much maintenance do those fans require to keep working well? I feel like the common thing is to basically not touch them, and they get pretty gross and don't seem to do much.

Edit: I got downvoted for this? I feel like I've seen a lifetime of these fans being decades old and in poor shape. I think you folks are vastly overestimating how many people clean those or replace the filter.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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There was a bunch of articles about this in 2020. After looking into the data my conclusion is the threat is overblown (big surprise), a large part of it is from cooking of any kind (heating produces particulates) and that if you take some basic precautions (open a window, use vent fan) the risk is very low.

Yeah, I can't but think the headline is true, but then leads immediately to, "but not as hazardous as you are now thinking."

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also have a gas stove? I’ve lived in lots of places that have unvented blowers but none of them had gas. Would be against code in almost every city in America.

How much maintenance do those fans require to keep working well? I feel like the common thing is to basically not touch them, and they get pretty gross and don't seem to do much. Edit: I got downvoted for this? I feel like I've seen a lifetime of these fans being decades old and in poor shape. I think you folks are vastly overestimating how many people clean those or replace the filter.

They're basically char filters, so if you wipe them and change the filters every 6 months or so you're good.

I'd be surprised if the average change time is any less than 5 years though.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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There was a bunch of articles about this in 2020. After looking into the data my conclusion is the threat is overblown (big surprise), a large part of it is from cooking of any kind (heating produces particulates) and that if you take some basic precautions (open a window, use vent fan) the risk is very low.

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Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also have a gas stove? I’ve lived in lots of places that have unvented blowers but none of them had gas. Would be against code in almost every city in America.

How much maintenance do those fans require to keep working well? I feel like the common thing is to basically not touch them, and they get pretty gross and don't seem to do much. Edit: I got downvoted for this? I feel like I've seen a lifetime of these fans being decades old and in poor shape. I think you folks are vastly overestimating how many people clean those or replace the filter.

You need to clean the filters regularly so they don’t become a fire hazard due to oil buildup; the better ones should have some kind of reminder system and will have filters that are dishwasher safe.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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There was a bunch of articles about this in 2020. After looking into the data my conclusion is the threat is overblown (big surprise), a large part of it is from cooking of any kind (heating produces particulates) and that if you take some basic precautions (open a window, use vent fan) the risk is very low.

It is extremely common, even default in the US in my experience, to not have vent fans not actually... vent. As a renter, I don't really get a choice in the matter. Opening a window significantly is also pretty unfeasible most of the year.

Those fans can be installed in two ways, venting or recirculating. In a recirculation mode you need to keep the filters clean, and they do an _ok_ job at keeping smells out of the kitchen, but if they don't vent outdoors then you need to open a window unfortunately

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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There was a bunch of articles about this in 2020. After looking into the data my conclusion is the threat is overblown (big surprise), a large part of it is from cooking of any kind (heating produces particulates) and that if you take some basic precautions (open a window, use vent fan) the risk is very low.

Exactly. These are opinion pieces with scary headlines. Almost nothing to back them up. Also strange to talk about developing countries having problems. They usually have chimneys. Hydrochlorides are there because of pans coated with them that burn them off. Guess what, they still end up in food no matter which heating you would use. So the problem is pans, not the heat. Cooking with fire is Lindy. And there is no ot…

Although i agree that gas cooktops have several advantages in cooking non westernized meals, rotis can definitely be made on induction. Been making them since many years now.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also have a gas stove? I’ve lived in lots of places that have unvented blowers but none of them had gas. Would be against code in almost every city in America.

How much maintenance do those fans require to keep working well? I feel like the common thing is to basically not touch them, and they get pretty gross and don't seem to do much. Edit: I got downvoted for this? I feel like I've seen a lifetime of these fans being decades old and in poor shape. I think you folks are vastly overestimating how many people clean those or replace the filter.

Very little maintenance is required but not zero. If it gets gross, wash it.

Re: Gas stoves are more hazardous than we’ve been led to believe (2020)

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That seems pretty obvious from their construction. I don’t know anyone that uses a stove top kettle. It’s unfortunate that in the US our electric kettles are much slower than in the U.K.

I think it can be spread by word of mouth. I've already converted several friends and family over to electric kettles when they see how useful it is for coffee, tea, even for getting water boiled for cooking. The big question in my mind is whether the electric kettle itself is the "final form", or if I'll be proselytizing the same people in ten years to get an Asian style hot water heater/reservoir instead.

A holiday rental I stayed in had a boiling water tap. It's a small improvement over a kettle, but in terms of improvement there's very little efficiency gains to be had over a hot plate directly in contact with the cooking liquid.
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