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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by poleguards »

mise_en_place wrote: post #25
Karellen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I literally set up these catch all employee tracking systems. Does that bother you at all? Not just about the employees you’re doing this to, but about being part of the system that normalises this kind of surveillance generally? Is this really the kind of world you want to live in?

The great thing about capitalism and the free market is that you can choose not to enter into an agreement with a party if they run contrary to your ethics and morals.

This is a fantasy version of capitalism that assumes perfectly symmetrical information. A huge percentage of the people being monitored have no clue it's going on.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by qbasic_forever »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #9

I have zero confidence that this system is smart enough to differentiate between all these things and the legitimate variants thereof (e.g. collusion and cross team collaboration are basically indistinguishable) that companies actually want people doing or discussing and likely outnumber the bad by orders of magnitude.

Yeah and the sad thing is companies that don't know better will flip it on because "wow look at smart Microsoft's latest feature, we better use this!" and then inadvertently fire Sally in HR because her asking people to sign a card for the VP's birthday looked suspiciously like a violation of corporate gift policies.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by mc32 »

jmyeet wrote: post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

Doesn’t some of this stuff add some legal liability to organizations?

Like if a manager learns something and takes action because of it?

Or learning about employee behavior and sentiment and using that information to suppress promotions…

Or being informed of employee misbehavior and not taking action against it…

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by MauranKilom »

Why is everything duplicated in this announcement? The list of classifier descriptions effectively appears twice, the first time with the text of the "What you need to do to prepare" (which, btw, says exactly nothing on how to prepare) appended to each item.

What even is this site? It looks like grade A content rehashing from various MS sites...

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by tpmx »

Datenstrom wrote: post #30
tpmx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Small software companies doing innovative things. Any business area that might need an external audit is a severe red flag in this context. That also typically means it's less fun, IMO. A software company running a Microsoft-based email/etc system is also a red flag in this context. I mean, why...

What email services would not be a red flag?

Fastmail :).

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by jamiek88 »

mise_en_place wrote: post #25
Karellen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I literally set up these catch all employee tracking systems. Does that bother you at all? Not just about the employees you’re doing this to, but about being part of the system that normalises this kind of surveillance generally? Is this really the kind of world you want to live in?

The great thing about capitalism and the free market is that you can choose not to enter into an agreement with a party if they run contrary to your ethics and morals.

Yeah avoiding the only isp in my town ain’t happening.

How the free market will I get internet?

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Post by bee_rider »

mrfusion wrote: post #27

Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

Not really.

Office suites were a mistake. Return to text editor.

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