Any relation to the old shareware processor Kagi?
Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta
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Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta
#52"... for Apple users" would have gone a long way > Orion is an alternative browser for Apple users https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#goal
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#53I enjoy Kagi, results are great. I hope the pricing comes down a little in future. edit: just paid, it came to about $15AUD after bank conversion fees which is about the price of a streaming service here.
Yeah I like Kagi but $15AUD is a bit steep for a subscription (for any software / SaaS), I think $10AUD would make more sense here. Still, it's a great product.
True, I wish they gave a discount when paying for an year. BUT! with the quality of their search results I am still going to pay for it. I used ddg to get away from google and I often found myself doing g! everytime.
With kagi, I almost never have to go back to google. Its really good for programming related searches as well. One of my favourite features about them is I can block certain sites from appearing on my search results and see more of certain sites.
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#54Any relation to the old shareware processor Kagi?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even a gym membership?
Fair point, updated my comment :)
It is interesting though because I share the same thought where something physically tangible like a gym membership can be quadruple the price of monthly subscribed software but the other way round and I’m surprised.
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#56This looks fantastic! Can someone explain what the Intelligent Tracking Prevention feature is designed to guard against? Will it be limited to cross-site tracking, or does it also prevent individual websites from fingerprinting you through stuff like WebGL/WebUSB?
Non-Chromium browsers are protected from fingerprinting by stuff like WebUSB by the nature that none of them support WebUSB. Many of these supposed "Web" things are actually just Chrome-proprietary features.
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#57I enjoy Kagi, results are great. I hope the pricing comes down a little in future. edit: just paid, it came to about $15AUD after bank conversion fees which is about the price of a streaming service here.
Yeah I like Kagi but $15AUD is a bit steep for a subscription (for any software / SaaS), I think $10AUD would make more sense here. Still, it's a great product.
My take has been that I pay more than that for almost every other subscription (Netflix, Spotify, etc.) and yet Kagi is the only one that I'm almost guaranteed to use every single day and it's got the biggest influence on my productivity. The others I'm more likely to just passively consume. With Netflix increasingly being more hit and miss as to whether it's even an enjoyable experience.
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#58Been using Kagi for a few months now and, unlike when I used DDG, it's rare that I feel the need to fall back to Google.
I guess now is where we see if Kagi's model can actually work. Will people pay money for a search engine when all other major players in the space don't transact with users in cash? I definitely hope for their success!
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Free plan is limited to 50 searches per month and 80 searches costs them about $1. https://kagi.com/pricing You can also see your actual usage cost at https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption As for the incognito side I'm not convinced it's any less connected than switching to Incognito and searching with your normal search provider. Yeah, the sign in info is explicitly sent but it's not like Google et al don't know i…
gosh 1$/80 searches is somewhat expensive... are these pure infrastructure costs or does this include development costs which I hope would scale down as the search engine grows?
They use a lot of 3rd party APIs rather than try to beat everyone at quality and the only monetization is via direct payment so those 3rd party API costs get baked in. For an idea how many things a search might call
https://kagi.com/faq#:~:text=Where%20are%20your%20results%20...
> Our searching includes anonymized requests to traditional search indexes like Google and Bing as well as vertical sources like Wikipedia and DeepL or other APIs. We also have our own non-commercial index (Teclis), news index (TinyGem), and an AI for instant answers. ... And of course, we answer quick queries like “How far is the sun from the earth?” or “10kg in lbs” with our instant-answer systems that use dozens of sources and APIs, all connected to you quickly yet transparently.
Cost of their infrastructure to tie it together and development/maintenance may go down with scale but it's not really expected to get significantly cheaper to provide the search results without either lowering quality or using alternative monetization, both of which Kagi is against. I'm not associated with Kagi I just happened to ask very similar questions a few days ago in their Discord.
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I agree. I dislike the tendency in Apple circles to just simply imply that things only run on mac. It’s like: I know it’s obvious to you, the software author, but it’s not obvious to me, the reader. Even though I use mac sometimes, I mostly don’t use software that isn’t cross platform.
Welcome to every Mac and Linux user’s experience! Most software is Windows-only but doesn’t mention this fact.
Yeah, and that’s annoying, but at least it makes sense, being quite a majority share of the desktop and laptop market. And I can run it on Wine if I want, which gives me a better prognosis than any Apple software does on other platforms…