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Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by [deleted] »

willcipriano wrote: post #34
slimsag wrote: post #26

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There are only two reasons it would need to be private: (1) you're collecting data where if it was public, people would be outraged. That's spying. (2) you believe the data is anonymous and valuable, but only you / your group should benefit from the insights it provides. You're afraid someone else is going to 'take your ideas' and execute them better than you can. Point 1 is ethically wrong, in my view. Point 2 is no…

Someone saving all the letters you have written them isn't spying on you, you have just been careless to write down so many private things. The easier way is to assume all signals emitted by your computer are being consumed somewhere (Hey CIA friends!) and not emit anything you don't want detected.

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Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by naikrovek »

yreg wrote: post #50
kortilla wrote: post #47

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Doubtful anyone thinks react is cool at this point. It’s more of a thing you just need to use for your job. It’s like Java at this point.

Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021

that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions.

I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.

I think someone could easily cherry pick results from this survey to back any opinion they have, completely independent of any actual "truth."

Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by natebc »

cube2222 wrote: post #39
dataangel wrote: post #37

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do you warn users about the telemetry? OSS users and developers in particular are pretty hostile to it, especially when it's default

Please judge for yourself in this asciinema I've just uploaded whether it's enough of a warning: https://asciinema.org/a/eWQsyXQKi1fmithyTekAD5fWS

That is a very clear and helpful message.

You may want to consider mentioning it in the README.md as well and alongside any example/default configuration you generate indicating the default state and setting to disable it, especially if it's only output the first time it writes the telemetry history.

Re: GitHub Star History Graph

#55

Post by dtolnay »

naikrovek wrote: post #52
yreg wrote: post #50

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Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021

that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.…

This is a misunderstanding of how the "loved" part of the survey works.

> something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose

"Loved" specifically measures what fraction of people currently using the technology say they desire to continue using it next year. In the survey there is no such thing as non-users claiming to love it.

Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by yreg »

naikrovek wrote: post #52
yreg wrote: post #50

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Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021

that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.…

So you are saying it represents which technologies the community considers cool?

Because that's exactly the context in which I'm quoting it :)

Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by naikrovek »

yreg wrote: post #56
naikrovek wrote: post #52

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that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.…

So you are saying it represents which technologies the community considers cool? Because that's exactly the context in which I'm quoting it :)

no I'm saying it isn't a good view into what people actually like. it's a view into what they want the world to be like.

people respond to surveys according to what they want the survey results to be, and not how things actually are.

Re: GitHub Star History Graph

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Post by mountainriver »

naikrovek wrote: post #52
yreg wrote: post #50

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Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021

that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.…

Yeah probably because people have limited time and corporations don’t just let you use whatever language generally
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