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Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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Inflation is a change in the price level, i.e. an average. TFA argues that inflation is misleading because prices don't change uniformly, and therefore inflation doesn't fully explain every change in the price of every possible commodity and service.

I think it's a straw man argument, because nobody claims that inflation fully explains changes in the prices of commodities. Instead, measuring inflation allows us to decompose these changes into a general component (i.e. inflation) and an idiosyncratic component (i.e. a change in relative prices), which is useful because it gives us more information about the causes of price changes. Inflation is only misleading if you're willingly misinterpreting it.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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At the risk of going off-topic: I'd also like someone to write a similar blog post providing a convincing explanation of why the national debt supposedly isn't wrecking the US's future big time. To me it absolutely is, because you can only keep borrowing money and paying the (increasingly large) interest on it for so long. Eventually it'll exceed your revenue and you have no choice but to print money and hyperinflate…

> (increasingly large) interest

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bon...

The 30-year yield is 2.97%. The way you read those figures from the 30-year line is that the US can borrow $98.19 today, and have to pay back $100 plus a $2.88 coupon in 30 years. That's not a lot of interest. And if it weren't for the use of interest rates to fight inflation, it could potentially be driven lower.

If the US could borrow $100 today and pay back $99 in 30 years, a negative rate, what would be the right amount to borrow?

The USD is safe because the borrowing is:

    - in dollars
    - from Americans (to a great extent; "In June 2021 approximately $20.9 trillion of outstanding Treasury securities, representing 74% of the public debt, belonged to domestic holders. Of this amount $6.2 trillion or 22% of the debt was held by agencies of the federal government itself")
    - matched by real economic growth still
    - and the US has adequate domestic oil production for its needs
There undoubtedly is a limit, but we're not seeing warning signs yet.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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post #15

If this perspective carries the day - which is plausible - then all it will reveal is that basically nobody in the voting public should care about inflation: 1) Inflation is not a useful metric for financial planning. If your investments are keeping pace with inflation then you have completely failed to position yourself correctly relative to the massive money creation going on. The gold price trend is posting consis…

I find it interesting that house prices are kept out of inflation. But if you are forced to rent forever due to unaffordable housing, in your later years you might be paying $3000/m rent instead of $0/m mortgage interest. But that fact is conveniently left out.

If you want to make an informed decision, you have to consider the entire period not just the later years.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

#54

At the risk of going off-topic: I'd also like someone to write a similar blog post providing a convincing explanation of why the national debt supposedly isn't wrecking the US's future big time. To me it absolutely is, because you can only keep borrowing money and paying the (increasingly large) interest on it for so long. Eventually it'll exceed your revenue and you have no choice but to print money and hyperinflate…

You can default on your sovereign debt.

Argentina does it every 10 years or so, and the next day after default banks line up to credit it again.

Greece practically (but not technically) defaulted in the 2012 European debt crisis.

China owns a lot of US debt. Now they are starting to question how wise that is.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume because hourly wage is easier to track and provides a more direct comparison. What difference would switching to total compensation make?

Because non-wage compensation has made up a bigger and big part of total compensation - healthcare, 401k match, fringe benefits, bonuses, etc. My dad worked as a teacher and got a super fat pension - that’s not included. Total compensation has risen much more than hourly wage.

Do you think those increases truly make up the huge gap between productivity increase and hourly wage increase? What's more, do you think most of near median earners get any significant benefits?

I don't think article is necessarily wrong in pointing out the huge gap when most big total comp increases only seem to apply to the upper middle class. At the very least, I don't think Pizza Friday is going to make up that huge gap.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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post #14

Inflation can be thought of as a high dimensional vector with dimensions equal to the number of objects you buy with money. Each person is affected by this inflation differently because they buy different things. To “solve” this problem, the government has decided to collapse this high dimensional object into a scalar number. And now we are seeing a divergence between this scalar number and the actual high dimensiona…

> Inflation can be thought of as a high dimensional vector with dimensions equal to the number of objects you buy with money.

No, that's just the changes in individual prices.

Inflation is the change in the price level, and it has always been that. Nobody has changed subreptitiously the definition of inflation in order to rip you off.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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Wow, this was the article I was looking for, it summarizes a number of thoughts about economics that I'd been having since the undergraduate days: - There's an authority about the field that really isn't deserved. The models are not made properly, and there's a lot of hand-waiving. I studied economics with a class of engineers and everyone pointed this out. - The pop-sci version of economics is a bunch of easy quips.…

The thing that has nagged at you as it has me, is the simple fact that not only was “economics” conjured and molded by and for the interests of the upper echelon of society, to control the language and thoughts about its terms; but that at the core of it, it’s nothing more than fraud, deception, con artistry.

That’s all inflation is too, fraud that if you would commit it, e.g., you added filler to some product you delivered or forged signatures on delivery paperwork, you would be punished for.

You are given currency coupons in exchange for your work, and then more of those coupons are just forged than correspond to actual work having been done, thereby defrauding you out of the value of your work, also commonly called theft of service.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The alternative to printing money would be to raise money through taxation, which is also politically infeasible. The scary thing, looking back on the 20th century, is that is probably what was said in a lot of places that then went through extreme political turmoil. There have been a lot of instances where the only politically feasible road was printing money. That is typically the introduction in stories that end…

> said in a lot of places that then went through extreme political turmoil Well, yes; inequality and shortages that the elite refuse to address lead to a lot of the classic Latin American revolutions, as well as the earlier Chinese revolution and Russian revolution. This is the concept referred to as "redistribution is insurance against pitchforks". > wilful ignorance on the part of the elites This really characteris…

> but the money is simply deleted

What an interesting idea. Is there any historical precedent for actually deleting/destroying money?

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

#59
This article makes a number of misleading claims I think stemming from a misunderstanding of inflation- which does not mean "price increase" but rather "a general increase in the prices of goods and services in an economy"- that's right, we define it as an average.

Okay, what about the variation? Definitely, prices for different goods change differently, and the NYT even has a calculator that estimates it for you based on your consumption: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/08/business/econ... Try it out with a few different choices- you'll see that pretty much everyone experiences significant price increases, out of line with the previous decade- so the CPI while not perfect definitely tells us something.

The fact that the standard deviation is greater than the mean does not tell us its not meaningful- for example, if I give you 1 million samples from a normal distribution with mean 0.1 and std 1.0, you can meaningfully tell me the mean is greater than 0.

Individual components of the price index don't give a useful item to take the variance of, because very few people have all their expenses in one component. We'd actually like the dispersion of the change in expenses for each person/company to understand how much expenses rise in general. I suspect this will be significantly smaller since most people have 'similar' spending profiles, at least compared to the hypothetical consumers which only buy one component of the price index.

Okay so why do prices change differentially more during inflation? This is a tough one, and recently there are obvious confounding factors (covid) that make it difficult to dissect. But I think even Friedman would expect this, because he claims that quantity of money leads inflation by 6 months-2 years, and we wouldn't expect it to propagate through all supply chains at equal speed. This also means that the standard theory is predictive and can't just be an accounting identity- the prediction (which we can make after the huge increase in M2 in 2020) is that prices will rise, with some delay but eventually about 30%. I'm not counting any change in the output of the economy here, so with covid disruption I wouldn't expect this to have particularly good accuracy. Let's see how it pans out!

Finally, we can look at things like the price of gold: it rose significantly pretty much in line with the M2 money supply. I don't know of anything that would significantly affect gold supply recently, so it would seem the demand comes from devaluation of the dollar or fear of it.

Re: Inflation is differential and restructuring (2021)

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post #51

Inflation is a change in the price level, i.e. an average. TFA argues that inflation is misleading because prices don't change uniformly, and therefore inflation doesn't fully explain every change in the price of every possible commodity and service. I think it's a straw man argument, because nobody claims that inflation fully explains changes in the prices of commodities. Instead, measuring inflation allows us to de…

Indeed. Any suggestion that economists (neo-classical or otherwise) don't care enough about relative price changes is utterly ridiculous. They just don't call them inflation.
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