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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by brk »

cosmiccatnap wrote: post #18

I'll be the one to say it. For the price point you can build a very good custom keyboard with low profile keys of your choice. This is a fact that Logitech, Corsair, and razer, hope you never bother to find out.

Of course you can, but not everybody wants to.

Right now my desk is littered with ESP32 modules, small breadboards and random electronics related to a few projects I am working on.

I could build a keyboard nearly from scratch - I have a CNC machine I could carve a case on, Atmel chips that I could use to make a USB interface, etc. But I don't have the interest in building or modding a keyboard, I just want to buy something that works so I can concentrate on other things.

IMO Logitech is better than average at market research and product targeting. My guess is they will sell hundreds of thousands of these easily, probably just not to the mechanical keyboard hacker market.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bayindirh »

gigaflop wrote: post #46
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

It looks like it uses Cherry's low-profile switches, so if you're looking for switch reviews, there's your keyword.

Thanks, will keep that in mind.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by arinlen »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer.

You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold.

From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less.

You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for a mechanical keyboard. The faintest of Google searches would lead you to established products which are both cheaper and better.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bayindirh »

arinlen wrote: post #53
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

How many layouts do they have besides en_US?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by MivLives »

leohonexus wrote: post #23
xqcgrek2 wrote: post #14

I will never go back to fixed unsplit keyboard again. I much prefer split ergo keyboards, eg https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ or its non gaming version

How are they on a day to day basis? I’m thinking on getting one but not sure how big of an upgrade it is from unsplit ones.

Been using one for over two years now. They're great, but I'd say go for one that isn't row staggered (the keys don't line up vertically in columns).

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by gigaflop »

MivLives wrote: post #36
gigaflop wrote: post #6

They don't tell you what the actual switches are on the page, but they look like Cherry's low-profile switches, which will hopefully mean that the keycaps can be customized. Taller keycaps like SA or MT3 profile might not be great with such short travel, but GMK/OEM/Cherry profile would probably be comfortable.

Could also be choc v2s, which I say is more likely, because otherwise they'd plaster cherry logos somewhere on the page. There's a bunch of compatibility problems with those. Cherry, GMK, and PBT MT3 all don't work according to a geekhack thread I see. Cherry's lp switch would probably have similar issues.

I didn't know about the choc V2s until today, thanks! A shame that there might be fitment issues.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by vehemenz »

cosmiccatnap wrote: post #18

I'll be the one to say it. For the price point you can build a very good custom keyboard with low profile keys of your choice. This is a fact that Logitech, Corsair, and razer, hope you never bother to find out.

Can you though?

I am trying to build a custom keyboard. It's exhausting to sort through the bad layouts, tacky RGB cases, and ugly keycaps. Custom keycap sets rarely have legends for function/media keys. If I find something I like, everything is sold out, or the "drop" has ended.

It's potentially a lot of work. I love the idea of a big manufacturer designing a keyboard that checks many boxes for people. Decent switches, a decent layout, and actual legends on keycaps will go a long way.

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