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Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by sorenbs »

rkalla wrote: post #29
pieter wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon isn't really budget. The free tier is nice, and the tiny instances are priced ok, but beyond that they're quite expensive for a VPs. The nice thing with AWS is the scaling and the supporting infrastructure, but you do pay for that compared to more basic VPS offerings.

Just a reminder to everyone that prices out the flat On-Demand rates of Amazon, a 3-year reserved instance price is 48% cheaper than OnDemand. So if you know what your deployment needs are, take the On-Demand price and roughly divide it in half for your real cost-per-month (with a majority paid up front). If you don't know what kind of deployment you need, then yes, running everything on-demand can be pricey compared…

Is that a fixed price for the next 3 years then? I would expect normal prices to at least be cut in half 3 years from now as hardware gets cheaper.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by dashr »

SolarVPS has servers in New Jersey and Los Angeles for $5-40 that I've been using for a years. Like Rackspace (4 cores), these small boxes also have up to 16 cores. Great for mysql replication, code repos, distributed data nodes.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by ridruejo »

sorenbs wrote: post #51
rkalla wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a reminder to everyone that prices out the flat On-Demand rates of Amazon, a 3-year reserved instance price is 48% cheaper than OnDemand. So if you know what your deployment needs are, take the On-Demand price and roughly divide it in half for your real cost-per-month (with a majority paid up front). If you don't know what kind of deployment you need, then yes, running everything on-demand can be pricey compared…

Is that a fixed price for the next 3 years then? I would expect normal prices to at least be cut in half 3 years from now as hardware gets cheaper.

You pay a fixed price for the reservation and then per-usage fees. Usage fees will drop as Amazon reduces them, but the reservation is a one-time deal

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by count »

dotBen wrote: post #44
count wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is he.net bad for just a colo'd rack, rather than VPSs?

Well the VPS's are running on colo'd racks (and thus you're probably 2 or 3 steps of escalation further away from the DC operator). Hurricane Electric in Fremont has had issues with power and previously with wide-scale IP block blacklisting due to widespread illegality (bot nets, etc) running on equipment in their Datacenter. It might be fine now, I'm not sure, but there's a ton of DC's out there where this has NEVER…

They're most up front about easy IPv6 connectivity. Many other places it's 'call and ask' or the like.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by mogston »

After lots of downtime across three of my VPS' at VPS.net i'm opting to migrate all of them to one box on the Rackspace Cloud. I'm not a server admin, nor do i want to be, so the attraction of the new 'Managed Cloud' is all that much stronger.

I have used Voxel.net in the past, and their technical support team are absolutely amazing. Always willing to go that extra mile. Uptime was also very good.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by mogston »

rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

I wouldn't class Voxel.net as budget, but their low VPS is affordable, and based on my own experiences very reliable. They're very pro-active at alerting you to issues, even without their managed service.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by bcl »

ridruejo wrote: post #2

The ultimate budget VPS is an Amazon instance. You can be relatively sure that it is not going to go under. You can run one free micro instance ( http://aws.amazon.com/free/ ). You can scale as needed easily, both in terms of file system and CPU by simply rebooting your EBS to another instance type. You can have reliable, incremental snapshots. And finally, you have a great ecosystem of vendors providing AMIs for nea…

Or go one step further (depending on the design of your site) and switch to just S3 and CloudFront. I'm paying about $0.50/mo to host my sites since I converted to using static files.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by rmoriz »

We are very satisfied with dedicated systems from http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-pr... and http://ovh.co.uk

That said we run kvm on every box and run all customer and own apps in different VM managed (all managed by chef). So we're kind of running our own inhouse VPS-hosting-service.

We can achieve ultra-low-per costs per VM (as regular VPS providers would charce) but in the position to be the "root" customer of the box. We can decide which virtualization stack we want to use etc.

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by nl »

rkalla wrote: post #32

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a host with a nicely spread out global presence? I am aware of the big players (AWS, Linode, Softlayer, RimuHosting) but they all seem to have shortcomings that don't make anyone particularly ideal and I'd love to avoid a combination of all if I could. I am looking to minimize network latency and maximize disk space with memory and CPU being secondary concerns. More or less…

Rackspace's CDN (used for Rackspace Files) is Akamai.

This is orders of magnitude better than Singapore for AUS/NZ.

Actually, for some people in AUS, West Coast US will be better than Singapore because some ISPs (eg TGP) route via the US to save money. [1][2]

Edit: Of course, Amazon are supposed to be launching EC2 (or just a CDN node?) in Australia sometime soon.

[1] http://akb.id.au/2011/amazon-ec2-latency-australian-soil (look at the Melbourne latency to Singapore)

[2] https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=45867

Re: Reality of budget VPS services

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Post by mappu »

Interesting that the author had trouble with BuyVM - my instance seems to be working out pretty well and i've recommended them to some friends. $15/year is incredible, i've had no trouble with support, and they just quietly sit there hosting rtorrent and nginx.

There has of course been some limited downtime.

EDIT: Uptime statistics hit 99.99% this month. http://buyvmstatus.com/info/34 On top of that, the Frantech Announcements feed is pretty good at explaining the state of their datacenter, maintenance, node migrations etc

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