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Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

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Post by tentacleuno »

grvgr wrote: post #50
GekkePrutser wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if they're afraid Lee might sue them if they did or something Edit: Or maybe they don't want to drag the whole drama into this celebration again :) Libera moved on so quickly that even after 2 months it felt like everything was in the distant past and the community was just as it had always been. But then it would have been better to not elaborate on the history. I agree it's a bit weird like this.

He can try, it will not end well. https://twitter.com/grvgr/status/1526971545356214275

> Hello (do not) @buyvpnservice from (dirty) @Kape_com

> I hope you’re enjoying the ride.

> You are now at KAPUT, you are booked until the final destination, FUBAR.

> Please fasten your seatbelts and return your tray table to its full upright and locked position.

I'll be honest: I have absolutely no idea what this means. It's obvious the @buyvpnservice is meant to be a play on "buy VPN service", but everything else looks like mindless mumbling to me. Could you explain it, please?

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#53

Post by grvgr »

tentacleuno wrote: post #51
grvgr wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He can try, it will not end well. https://twitter.com/grvgr/status/1526971545356214275

> Hello (do not) @buyvpnservice from (dirty) @Kape_com > I hope you’re enjoying the ride. > You are now at KAPUT, you are booked until the final destination, FUBAR. > Please fasten your seatbelts and return your tray table to its full upright and locked position. I'll be honest: I have absolutely no idea what this means. It's obvious the @buyvpnservice is meant to be a play on "buy VPN service", but everything else l…

Hello, thank you for taking the time to read.

If you read my tweets since December 21, 2021 (I worked for PIA VPN for 5 years before it was bought by Kape.

They're scammers.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#54

Post by aaronmdjones »

Doxin wrote: post #32
someotherperson wrote: post #25

I think Freenode helped serve as a lesson to rasengan on a few things: 1. Technical prowess doesn't supersede the value of interpersonal/social abilities 2. Money doesn't let you control the narrative in a free system 3. Elon Musk isn't Elon Musk because he's rich, he's Elon Musk because he's good at marketing 4. Reputation is everything It's a shame that the cost of these lessons was the destruction of Freenode and…

I wouldn't accuse him of having technical prowess. Pretty much as soon as the takeover happened freenode started suffering technical issues. Libera on the other hand dealt with the insane influx of users really well. There was some connection troubles for the first hour if I recall correctly, but has been pretty much spotless ever since.

The most difficult thing to deal with in the first couple of days were the occasional server crashes. We would have liked some more time on our testnet to iron out the bugs in the IRC server software we were planning to migrate to (and started out with on the new network), but that didn't end up happening. In essence, we deployed a beta straight to production with >10k users on day 1 and had everything ironed out by day 4 if I recall correctly.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#55

Post by holler »

radarsat1 wrote: post #41

Can people explain what they like about IRC? I've often found the idea of having a community chat around some topic quite intriguing, but in practice when I've tried briefly joining such communities, I simply don't last long, as it doesn't grab my attention. Rooms tend to have tens or a hundred people joined, but saying nothing, until someone has a problem they want to talk about or question they want to ask, which i…

Appreciate your thoughts on this topic. What are some things that would help keep your interest in a topical chat app? Is it strictly that you're uninterested in the content and so the discussion is boring? Or is the asynchronous/disjointed conversation more of an issue?

> My reaction is always kind of, well, we're here in this reddit where there is already a community

I think that misses the different ways people seek to interact online. Reddit/HN style threaded comments have played a traditional role in social/aggregation sites, whereas live chat-based platforms are newer and facilitate a different kind of experience.

Both have value but they are different, and it could be that the latter is simply less interesting to some people.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#56

Post by INTPenis »

denkmoon wrote: post #47
Gigachad wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irc in general is in a slow death.

IRC as in the 1988 chat protocol, sure. IRC as a concept has never been healthier. Lots of alternatives, most proprietary, some libre, and more users than ever.

What are you basing this on?

I'm not trying to be difficult, I have used IRC since the 90s and still use it. It's just the best format for chat imo.

But my observation is also that it's dying slowly.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#57

Post by INTPenis »

radarsat1 wrote: post #41

Can people explain what they like about IRC? I've often found the idea of having a community chat around some topic quite intriguing, but in practice when I've tried briefly joining such communities, I simply don't last long, as it doesn't grab my attention. Rooms tend to have tens or a hundred people joined, but saying nothing, until someone has a problem they want to talk about or question they want to ask, which i…

Information density is a phrase I throw around a lot when comparing the new web based chats to IRC.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#58

Post by kaoD »

radarsat1 wrote: post #41

Can people explain what they like about IRC? I've often found the idea of having a community chat around some topic quite intriguing, but in practice when I've tried briefly joining such communities, I simply don't last long, as it doesn't grab my attention. Rooms tend to have tens or a hundred people joined, but saying nothing, until someone has a problem they want to talk about or question they want to ask, which i…

I agree with sibling comments.

I'd also add that IRC nowadays is very different from what it used to be. If you removed bouncers channels would be mostly empty. That's why you often see silence.

Back in the days IRC had very vibrant communities. I'd say it's turning into nostalgia now.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#59

Post by mgaunard »

saghul wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

The fact that this doesn't even mention Freenode is hilarious, and so awkward. Whoever wrote this had to really go out of their way to construct a history that isn't technically wrong, but, if you didn't know that Libera got its start as a fork of Freenode that almost everyone wanted to leave as soon as possible, you'd never figure it out.

I don't see anything wrong with that. I've been part of a community which forked in the past and it was so cringe (at least to me) for one of the sides to keep explaining the origins and such on each and every presentation even 10 years later. Anyone who knew Freenode knows the story already, and does any newcomer need to know, on that very blog post? I'd say no.

Because it's factually true and explains everything else.

Re: Happy Birthday, Libera Chat

#60

Post by RonMarken »

abstractbeliefs wrote: post #9
LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

The fact that this doesn't even mention Freenode is hilarious, and so awkward. Whoever wrote this had to really go out of their way to construct a history that isn't technically wrong, but, if you didn't know that Libera got its start as a fork of Freenode that almost everyone wanted to leave as soon as possible, you'd never figure it out.

Good, freenode is dead. Amen. I'm sure it doesn't help that the current owner of freenode is notoriously litigious.

> it doesn't help that the current owner of freenode is notoriously litigious.

Yawn. All I have seen is some angry techbro who can dish out an hour of time for an attorney to write angry letter when he does not have things his way. That is not to say this is a criticism of victims but rather a damn shame more people do not stand up to this nonsense.

Incidentally this 'notoriously litigious' individual is also being sued over alleged sexual-harassment committed by him at his previous company London Trust Media[1]. However not sure of the latest status given the sale(s) of certain companies.

[1]: http://web.archive.org/web/corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compr...

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