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Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

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Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#51
I feel like Google could filter out a lot of SEO spam by simply ignoring or downranking heavy sites. Everything that loads more than "n MB" is probably bloated and made to trick you into buying something or generating traffic without providing value.

Another method could be to analyze how many external requests a page makes and put that into the calculation.

Of course, there are exceptions, but I think this might help.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#52
Ok. I bit the bullet and typed exactly those words: "how to fix a flat tire".

This is what I got in return:

Row 1: 2 buttons marked "on a bike" and "scooter"

Row 2: single scrollable row of images of tire fixing kits with the prices.

Row 3: step by step recipe on how to fix flat on a car (7 steps long) followed by the link to the corresponding article and small image on the right side.

To me it looks straight to the point and one can't bitch about single row of ads of a relevant products.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#54
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. We are not looking for hire someone to do a job. We just want to be able to search for content online without middlemen interjecting themselves in the hopes of monetizing the interaction.

And who do you expect will provide that content for you, for free?

The millions of people that write and produce content without being tied to this Protestant mentality that something is only worth doing if it is profitable.

In fact, I'd wager that if we had a way to filter for content that is written without the goal of being monetized, we'd have a better web and us consumers would be more inclined to reward and give back to the creators generously.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#55

I feel like Google could filter out a lot of SEO spam by simply ignoring or downranking heavy sites. Everything that loads more than "n MB" is probably bloated and made to trick you into buying something or generating traffic without providing value. Another method could be to analyze how many external requests a page makes and put that into the calculation. Of course, there are exceptions, but I think this might hel…

Downranking these sites will overwhelmingly mean downranking those who spend money on Google ads. It will not happen because it is exactly contrary to Google making more money.

Of course Google has PageSpeed, which supposedly influences rankings by downranking sites that are very heavy to load, so I mean, that's an aspect to take into account, but I still believe the above to be largely true.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#56

Google is so unbearable because they are no longer interested in you finding the answer to your query; they're interested in selling your query and its context to the highest bidder. That conflict of interest manifests in what Google has become.

I agree. What the search space needs is a different business model. I have no idea what it could be. I'm quite sure a subscription model would fail. Micropayments have not taken off. How can we fund meaningful search divorced from an ad business?

Just ban their old businessmodel, and they will come up with a new one.

Or let Musk buy them.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#57
post #43

Google is so unbearable because they are no longer interested in you finding the answer to your query; they're interested in selling your query and its context to the highest bidder. That conflict of interest manifests in what Google has become.

Corollary: Web page creators are no longer interested in answering your query; they're interested in getting you to 1) view their page for ads 2) click on their affiliate links 3) buy the product they're selling. Google has an impossible task in trying to answer a query like "Portable air mattress reviews", because 99.99999% of the results are SEO-optimized crap

We don't know if the task is impossible because Google has no incentive to do it at all, so we can't assume they are really doing their best. They created this situation and they profit from it just the way it is.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#58
post #15

This is nitpicky but the tire changing page doesn't actually fit your rational for choosing .edu pages >Professors are paid generous salaries to share knowledge with the paying customers of the University (students). So, let’s find some paid unpaid University knowledge on how to change a tire by using our new trick! But the bottom of the page says >Prepared by: [students] For Dr. Bruce Magee's English 303 (Technical…

Does it really matter if it was a writing assignment, or a class in tire changing, provided that the information is correct?

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#59
post #15

This is nitpicky but the tire changing page doesn't actually fit your rational for choosing .edu pages >Professors are paid generous salaries to share knowledge with the paying customers of the University (students). So, let’s find some paid unpaid University knowledge on how to change a tire by using our new trick! But the bottom of the page says >Prepared by: [students] For Dr. Bruce Magee's English 303 (Technical…

It isn't nitpicking at all, I had the same question and glad you uncovered this answer. I think site:*.edu is just one tool in your search toolbox that you should know about, but I wouldn't expect it to work for every topic. Still, I had never thought of it so I'm glad I read this article.

Re: Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it

#60
The mentioned queries provide quite good search results for me

The first link clearly explains how to fix a tire and right underneath the first link, there's a link to Youtube video with described sections which you can click on immediately

The sites are full of tracking and ads, but that's hardly Google's fault imo

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