Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

macrumors.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 734 posts

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#51

Post by zmgsabst »

sabellito wrote: post #40
thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #28

Good for him. These companies touting their solutions for creating a more connected world can't have it both ways. Apple was able to ship the M1 and roll out new iterations of many other offerings since the pandemic hit. They're just fine. Apple didn't collapse since the pandemic hit, and the flexibility offered by remote work is far more valuable to lots of people than the loss of in-person collaboration opportuniti…

I have a strong dislike for remote work and will only work at companies with offices where people are expected to go to the vast majority of days. I absolutely understand that it's the opposite for some people.

I feel the same.

I like working from an office and I like informal interactions with colleagues — from chatting over coffee to peeking around and seeing who is free to whiteboard a problem.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#53

Post by Austin_Conlon »

thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #38

Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently — they’re not fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can’t do is ignore them because they change things… they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the on…

In a talk Craig Federighi gave, he said some of his most inventive work was done remotely with his NeXT Cube in a cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43sjym5ZS68&t=677s.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#54

Post by tasubotadas »

jackblemming wrote: post #18
daniel-thompson wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on this.

GANs were just low hanging fruit that Schmidhuber already found. By most accounts Ian Goodfellow is kind of an asshole, and there was some drama about him a few times over the years. I don’t know the man, that’s just what I’ve heard.

Is there anything that schmidhuber hasn't done before everyone else?

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#55

Post by paulcole »

humanistbot wrote: post #47

Is there anything HNers feel more passionately about than remote work?

A couple contenders off the top of my head:

1. Defending pseudoscience (as long as it’s related to nutrition and exercise)

2. Disgust with “marketing people” and anyone with an MBA

3. Hating “woke” culture

4. Justifying piracy

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#56

Post by NKosmatos »

Good for him and good for all the others that are able to do this (resign and find a new full remote job). For the rest of us it’s going to be a struggle to persuade our companies that WFH is well suited for a percentage of the workforce and they should offer it if they want to keep good/skilled workers. WFH is not for everybody and there are many people that want to return to offices, but the companies that realize that can offer both will come out of this better staffed ;-)

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#57

Post by jjj123 »

williamsmj wrote: post #39
qbasic_forever wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We deserve to have input into how we work best and if that means walking away from companies run by egomaniacs that need to see butts in seats, then so be it. The logical conclusion of this line of thinking is to organize your coworkers. You have much more bargaining power about your work conditions as an organized union. The history of unionization stems primarily from workers demanding safe working environments.

I agree with everything you say, but Goodfellow was a manager. Managers can’t join unions in the United States.

What do you mean by that? My manager at my last job was in a union. There was, however, a separate union for managers and one for ICs.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#58

Post by caenorst »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #30
thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #28

Good for him. These companies touting their solutions for creating a more connected world can't have it both ways. Apple was able to ship the M1 and roll out new iterations of many other offerings since the pandemic hit. They're just fine. Apple didn't collapse since the pandemic hit, and the flexibility offered by remote work is far more valuable to lots of people than the loss of in-person collaboration opportuniti…

> We deserve to have input into how we work best and if that means walking away from companies run by egomaniacs that need to see butts in seats, then so be it. The logical conclusion of this line of thinking is to organize your coworkers. You have much more bargaining power about your work conditions as an organized union. The history of unionization stems primarily from workers demanding safe working environments.

Or just to do what he did. Ian Goodfellow and probably all his team will have no problem finding another job in the condition they want. Apple don't have any monopole on AI jobs.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

#60

Post by mgraczyk »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #30
thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #28

Good for him. These companies touting their solutions for creating a more connected world can't have it both ways. Apple was able to ship the M1 and roll out new iterations of many other offerings since the pandemic hit. They're just fine. Apple didn't collapse since the pandemic hit, and the flexibility offered by remote work is far more valuable to lots of people than the loss of in-person collaboration opportuniti…

> We deserve to have input into how we work best and if that means walking away from companies run by egomaniacs that need to see butts in seats, then so be it. The logical conclusion of this line of thinking is to organize your coworkers. You have much more bargaining power about your work conditions as an organized union. The history of unionization stems primarily from workers demanding safe working environments.

Until you want something different from those who wield power in the union. At least I can quit my job and work for a different company. In heavily unionized industries, you can't escape.
Post reply on HN