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Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by martincmartin »

What are some other games where spreadsheets help? I'll start:

- Kerbal Space Program. Figuring out the sizes of different stages, how many solid boosters to add, etc.

- Factorio. Ratios of different factories, mostly for creating science packs.

- Cookie Clicker. Figuring out what to buy to get the best marginal cookies per dollar.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by yvdriess »

2000UltraDeluxe wrote: post #9
UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

When the game peaked around 2011 ,EvE felt more of an unpaid second job without pay. But what a job it was! Once you get sucked in, you could spend several months per year playing EvE. Luckily, CCP screwed things up quite badly, and I lost interest. If they hadn't, I'd probably be stuck playing EvE rather than living in the real world. :D

Interestingly, I've also seen a lot of EVE friends that have gotten jobs because of their EVE connections (logistics, computer security, state dept, ...)

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by rkangel »

_fat_santa wrote: post #49
gabereiser wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played it from launch until around 2010 or so. Is it worth it? No. Is there a good alternative? No. EVE Online always had an element of spreadsheets to it. It was designed that way. The original game design was done inside excel. Personally I find it fascinating that CCP didn’t build their own spreadsheet functionality into the game considering how many players used spreadsheets to calculate mining yield returns, i…

So one thing I've always wondered about EVE. We all know about the "corporations" in the game and they seem to be ingrained in the culture of EVE. Were those "corporations" started by the creators (like the Alliance and Horde in WoW), or are they purely player created?

Purely player created. They're basically guilds in other games.

There are some built-in 'NPC Corporations' that you start on, and default back to if you get kicked out of a Corp, but they're basically just placeholders.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by alexashka »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

> Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation

Is it? How bad does your life have to be, that you'd settle for a game instead?

I tried Eve a couple of years ago. I spent more time puzzling out why anyone plays it, rather than actually playing it. You have to do boring tasks, to get money, to do what? Oh, to get to do more boring tasks, to get more money. Ok, but to do what? Oh, to get to do more boring tasks, to get more money.

Hm... what am I missing? Oh, you get to run around stomping random people once you have a lot of money. Oh, okay, so, you get to be an asshole or do more boring tasks to get to be more of an asshole? Yes.

Ok... that's extremely addictive and enticing for some people? Yes. Wow... What fucking losers some people are. That's the conclusion I came away with.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by pmoriarty »

gabereiser wrote: post #14
UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

I played it from launch until around 2010 or so. Is it worth it? No. Is there a good alternative? No. EVE Online always had an element of spreadsheets to it. It was designed that way. The original game design was done inside excel. Personally I find it fascinating that CCP didn’t build their own spreadsheet functionality into the game considering how many players used spreadsheets to calculate mining yield returns, i…

"Is there a good alternative? No."

Check out Astrox Imperium. It's been described as "Eve Offline". It's made by just one developer, but it's really impressive for that.

I've never played Eve myself, so I can't personally say how they compare, but I enjoyed the hell out of AI.

(PS: I have no association with AI. I'm just a very satisfied fan.)

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