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Re: MenuetOS

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I think he was shadowbanned on HN due to his racist remarks.

How would you know you are shadowbanned? I've never gotten a response to any comment I've posted here.

That's the idea of being shadowbanned. Comments made by Terry would show up as [dead] whenever he posted. More about Terry here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17912618

You're not shadowbanned btw.

Re: MenuetOS

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Depends where you look. The cloud OSes have long left classical UNIX behind, Kubernetes or managed languages on top of type 1 hypervisors are the name of the game, even if there is some POSIX based kernel somewhere on the stack. On the mobile side, although Android and iOS have some POSIX support, it hardly matters for app development. Even on macOS, which is a certified UNIX, if you want access to some of the modern…

All of these things are ultimately abstractions built on top of POSIX (aside from actual unikernels which can be used in the virtualization scenario) It absolutely does free OS designers to remove the POSIX parts from in between, but no one really has yet

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Re: MenuetOS

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Depends where you look. The cloud OSes have long left classical UNIX behind, Kubernetes or managed languages on top of type 1 hypervisors are the name of the game, even if there is some POSIX based kernel somewhere on the stack. On the mobile side, although Android and iOS have some POSIX support, it hardly matters for app development. Even on macOS, which is a certified UNIX, if you want access to some of the modern…

All of these things are ultimately abstractions built on top of POSIX (aside from actual unikernels which can be used in the virtualization scenario) It absolutely does free OS designers to remove the POSIX parts from in between, but no one really has yet

There is no POSIX on many type 1 hypervisors, specially stuff like Hyper-V.

Android and ChromeOS developers also don't have any access to any kind of POSIX abstractions or APIs.

Re: MenuetOS

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The author seems to be violating the GPL with Menuet64? Menuet64 is pretty clearly a derivative work of Menuet32, which is GPL. However, Menuet64 is released under a non-free license. Originally I believed the author may be the sole author of Menuet32, and thus could relicense to whatever they wanted. However, the release notes ( https://www.menuetos.net/relnotes.htm ) credit many other authors with their contributio…

I also don't really understand the reason for the relicensing. There doesn't seem to be a commercial version available.

The author was not happy with their code being used in KolibriOS, a fork.

http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?p=216272#216272

Re: MenuetOS

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Thing is, everything runs on hypervisors these days anyway. It already has to virtualize your sound card, your USB chipset etc.

What do you mean when you say 'everything runs on hypervisors'? That may be true in the datacentre and the cloud.

Well, it's of course a slight exaggeration, but our desktop computers have had hardware support for virtualization for a long time now. Even our GPUs are getting hardware support for virtualization. Does it really have to be a problem any more that "your operating system has no drivers for this thing"?

Re: MenuetOS

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What do you mean when you say 'everything runs on hypervisors'? That may be true in the datacentre and the cloud.

Well, it's of course a slight exaggeration, but our desktop computers have had hardware support for virtualization for a long time now. Even our GPUs are getting hardware support for virtualization. Does it really have to be a problem any more that "your operating system has no drivers for this thing"?

Yeah, fair point. It's less and less relevant for sure.

But something like this lives in the hobbyist space where (I think) bare metal is still king.

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