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Re: User Disengagement

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> Choosing a financial services firm to manage one’s personal finances is a critical, long term decision. This is not true for every industry. For example, a lot of mobile games are "freemium". It might be worth offering free services to some people, in order to get them hooked. Maybe that way more end up signing up.

Ya know... I'm reminded that the only other industry that uses terms like 'users' and 'hooked' is drugs. When did software and computing become drug dealing?

That’s an old trope, but it’s not really true. My TV has a user guide, so does my fridge, my brush cutter and my soldering iron. And, while I wouldn’t say that “hooked” is a term used widely across the whole software industry - though obviously in this context it’s more common - nevertheless, it’s hardly a term we share exclusively with drug consumption.

In fact, without thinking about it much, I think the nearest similar industry may possibly be day-time TV.

Re: User Disengagement

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I don't know anything about the company but I applaud the sentiment. But is it obvious to note that a lot of companies start with similar ideas... and then any number of forces -- the market, shareholders, the board, management changes, black swans -- cause the screws to tighten? And then the ideals begin to erode. I guess I'm sort of implying (without any empirical proof) that there are darwinian reasons for state o…

I agree, It seems like we are in a race to the bottom in which, where if we don’t target engagement in the manner derided here, we fear having our lunch eaten.

Make no mistake, I am 100% with the author here (at least philosophically), but it’s really hard to avoid in practise. In my forthcoming project, on the one hand I want to have a soft touch with users in terms of engagement, but on the other hand the wrong investors will not care. And as I learned in my previous project, you can’t always know if you have the right investors until it’s way too late.

Engagement (in the classical sense) is essential for a successful product, and I’m really hopeful that we can find, agree to, and implement limits around what we will do to manage it. But in an industry where this behaviour is the norm, it also becomes the expectation.

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